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« on: October 25, 2010, 08:07:12 AM » |
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I feel like an idiot for not having discovered this spell before.
Obviously, it's already quite optimised for us. However, is there any way to really play with the spell? At the moment, I have two scenarios in my head:
1) Cast it and run for your life, the obvious use for the spell as a first level character.
2) Use it as a follow up to Grease.
Are there any other useful combinations of spells that can be tried? Obviously, the easiest answer to this question is any other good first level battlefield control spell, but is there anything else that can be tried?
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telehax
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 08:27:37 AM » |
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i think the good point of this spell is that it's massively cost efficient, i mean, on an scroll it costs 12.5 gp and has few of the drawbacks of scrolls such as low CL or save DCs. Spending a second spell to combo with it makes it not cost efficient. I think this spell is one best left uncombo'd.
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McPoyo
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 09:37:44 AM » |
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Tacking on Fell Drain or Fell Animate is good one, if you have any metamagic cost reducers.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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Rebel7284
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 12:17:37 PM » |
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Convince your party to chip in on a lesser metamagic rod of extend spell.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2010, 06:50:33 PM » |
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The only metamagic you should apply to PW: Pain are the ones like Fell Animate where you get a bonus effect aside from damage, and even then maybe not so much. The idea of scribbling up a bunch of scrolls (or even a Wand) of PW: Pain is a good one, since personally I don't think it's worth a spell slot most days.
By the time you get 2nd-level spells, it's pretty worthless. It'll take it's full duration to kill anything with 30-50 HP, and above that it's not effective at all. That said, if you have a fleeing, wounded enemy, PW: Pain is a good spell to throw on them before they get away (if you can, it's a close range spell).
The exception are Warmages. Even if the effect is minimal, Warmages can do tons of damage with this spell since Warmage Edge applies on each round. At higher levels, you can cast a spell with big up-front damage like an Orb and then follow it up with a quickened PW: Pain for a no-attack, no-save method of finishing them off.
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McPoyo
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 10:09:44 PM » |
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Can also use it to snipe from the shadows. Not like it has a flashy visual component to it.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2010, 06:12:24 AM » |
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Can also use it to snipe from the shadows. Not like it has a flashy visual component to it.
It has a very noticeable Verbal one, though, and I'm fairly certain you can't effectively apply Silent Spell to a Power Word spell. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2010, 06:39:27 AM » |
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It's just a single word though, and the opponents don't need to hear it. I believe it's something like a DC 15 listen check which is way better than most spells.
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McPoyo
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2010, 07:27:49 AM » |
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Also, it's pretty hard to locate which shadow the caster is hidden in from just one word.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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