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Nytemare3701
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« on: October 24, 2010, 08:57:46 AM » |
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Using The Mad Linguist's cheesy kobold substitution levels, I've made a Shadowcraft mage at level 2. While many of these rules are on VERY thin ice, I'm not here to debate them. At our table the character sheets are just rules support for a character you want to play. (The planar shepherd isn't broken for us for example, because we have mature players who suffer self-imposed "cinematic exhaustion" when using powerful abilities.)
Racial requirements are being ignored.
Halruaan Elder Item creation feat is being ignored, since the DM doesn't want to deal with crafting.
Assume DragonWrought Kobold, Loredrake, LA Buyoff for White Dragonspawn, and Greater Draconic Rite for a +4 to sorcerer levels.
Level 1: Sorc7+3.
Levels 2-5 SCM
Incantatrix 6
MSS 7-9
Halruan Elder 10-14
Incantatrix 15-20
What I am asking from you: Feats. I know the SCM handbook has plenty of feats, but I'm going to be screwing around a lot, and not going for maximum power.
Build Goals:
Arcane Thesis+Easy+MSS+Adroit for +0 Irresistable Spell. (I just don't want to deal with the % reality, and neither does the DM)
Fun bags of tricks.
The occasional "darkness consumes you all" type effect.
A Magic specialist, who is adept at seeing the components that make up spells. (Item familiar to stack spellcraft.)
Edit: We start play at level 4, all books and magazines are allowed, and I'm Lawful Neutral.
Edit2: Killing myself for Ghost1, and we are using pathfinder feat progression. So...more feats, +2 from taint.
Current Feats:
F:DWrought
F:Draconic Reservoir
1:Spell Focus (illusion)
3:Heighten Spell
T:Earth Sense
T:Earth Spell
5: Arcane Thesis (Silent Image)
Inc1:Envelope the Wall
7:Spell Thematics
MSS2:Maximize Spell
9:Halruaan Adept
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Feats to order:
Miser with Magic
easy metamagic (irresistible spell)
residual metamagic
Irresistible Spell
Metanode Magic
Node Spellcasting
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Open feat slots:
11
DCFS from HE2
13
DCFS from HE5
15
Inc4
17
19
Inc7
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jameswilliamogle
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2010, 01:54:54 PM » |
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I like Invisible Spell.
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altpersona
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2010, 02:30:05 PM » |
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The goal of power is power. - idk We are not descended from fearful men. - Murrow The Final Countdown is now stuck in your head. Anim-manga sux.  |
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Nytemare3701
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 04:27:12 PM » |
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So invisible spell and Fell Animate Metamagic feats?
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Lycanthromancer
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 04:37:04 PM » |
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Chosen of Tem Et Nu.
Everything's better as a Chosen of Tem Et Nu.
EVERYTHING.
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Nytemare3701
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2010, 05:27:34 PM » |
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I'm assuming this is some inside joke?
Blessing of Tem Et Nu let's me rebuke Hippos. What the hell.
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Benly
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2010, 06:27:47 PM » |
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I'm assuming this is some inside joke?
Blessing of Tem Et Nu let's me rebuke Hippos. What the hell.
Hippos are pretty hardcore, man. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2010, 06:29:38 PM » |
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I'm assuming this is some inside joke?
Blessing of Tem Et Nu let's me rebuke Hippos. What the hell.
Hippos are pretty hardcore, man. I've seen a Hippo eat a Dragon. |
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BeholderSlayer
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2010, 06:45:37 PM » |
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Hippos are like Pun Pun, but way stronger.
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lianightdemon
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2010, 06:51:23 PM » |
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I've played a hippo psion (3.0 psionics)
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McPoyo
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2010, 07:04:20 PM » |
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Rebuke them, AND they won't attack you. There's two parts to that feat.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
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Nytemare3701
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2010, 07:13:36 PM » |
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 Seriously though. Our current DM isn't planning on introducing Hippos, and I'd like to focus on metamagic/shadow casting.
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PlzBreakMyCampaign
Hong Kong
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Immune to Critical Hits as a Fairness Elemental
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2010, 07:15:00 PM » |
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As long your aware that the greater passage can't be taken until 6, I 2nd invisible spell
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An interesting read, nice to see a civil discussion The point of Spell Resistance is to make it harder to get buffed. And healed. Don't forget that. Huge amounts of people are fuckwits. That doesn't mean that fuckwit is a valid lifestyle. Old Geezer's Law of Hobby Taste: The more objectively inconsequential a hobby is, the more disagreements within the community will be expressed in outrageously insulting, overblown, and ludicrously emotionally laden terms. More Funny than HumbleYour a shifter... you have all you ever need. It blows MoMF out of the water But if your greedy for more [ Wish] for something that only effects you, like another class level or two that doesn't count against your ECL. Yes, I'm the 3.0 "Masters of the Wild" shifter, the awesome kind. My favorite form to take is Force Dragon. Yes, I am immortal ... My character is hands down the coolest guy in the campaign and there is nothing I could possibly want. PBMC gets a cookie for DotA r |
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Nytemare3701
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2010, 07:19:57 PM » |
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I'm aware. I'm only listed as level 4 at the start. 2 for lore, 1 for WDS.
Clarified via edit.
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The_Mad_Linguist
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2010, 08:08:09 PM » |
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So what order are you applying your templates?
Because you have to end up as a type:dragon to get the best benefits. That loses you some undead bonuses, but since you can't be turned to death I consider it an advantage.
Note that, given that the cheesesub levels require an extremely strict adherence to RAW, your first level (seventh level substition) is only giving you first level sorcerer spellcasting. I think that's how you're playing it right now, but want to clarify it.
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jameswilliamogle
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2010, 08:15:50 PM » |
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Oh! Signature Spell: Hippo-themes. FTW.
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Nytemare3701
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2010, 03:28:50 AM » |
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So what order are you applying your templates?
Because you have to end up as a type:dragon to get the best benefits. That loses you some undead bonuses, but since you can't be turned to death I consider it an advantage.
Note that, given that the cheesesub levels require an extremely strict adherence to RAW, your first level (seventh level substition) is only giving you first level sorcerer spellcasting. I think that's how you're playing it right now, but want to clarify it.
I don't need to keep the dragonblood stuff past level 1. I plan on "dying" at level 3. I don't want dragon polymorphs, and I don't want to further the kobold cheese past getting into SCM early and having the bonus sorcerer levels/stats. Tossing in Unseelie Fey (Ignoring evil) and Magic-Blooded. What would be the correct order to stack the templates? |
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2010, 03:38:53 AM » |
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Thing is, you lose your type:dragon and you lose all the benefits, including your early entries and racial sub cheese.
Just set it up so you apply dragonwrought last... come to think of it, there might be difficulties with unseelie's fey type change...
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RelentlessImp
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2010, 03:40:30 AM » |
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So what order are you applying your templates?
Because you have to end up as a type:dragon to get the best benefits. That loses you some undead bonuses, but since you can't be turned to death I consider it an advantage.
Note that, given that the cheesesub levels require an extremely strict adherence to RAW, your first level (seventh level substition) is only giving you first level sorcerer spellcasting. I think that's how you're playing it right now, but want to clarify it.
I don't need to keep the dragonblood stuff past level 1. I plan on "dying" at level 3. I don't want dragon polymorphs, and I don't want to further the kobold cheese past getting into SCM early and having the bonus sorcerer levels/stats. Tossing in Unseelie Fey (Ignoring evil) and Magic-Blooded. What would be the correct order to stack the templates? Magic-Blooded White Dragonspawn Unseelie Fey Dragonwrought Loredrake Kobold Ghost, I believe. |
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Nytemare3701
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2010, 04:09:12 AM » |
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Thing is, you lose your type:dragon and you lose all the benefits, including your early entries and racial sub cheese.
Just set it up so you apply dragonwrought last... come to think of it, there might be difficulties with unseelie's fey type change...
Racial sub cheese will no longer be needed, as by the time I'm dead I'll have the prerequisite spellcasting. |
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