Godless_Paladin
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2010, 02:55:15 AM » |
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There just needs to be a place that's saved everything for the poor folks who didn't get the word until it was too late.
That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase. I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it. I'm impressed. I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2010, 03:11:44 AM » |
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It's as if 3.5 players are the pariahs of WOTC ... unclean, unclean!
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2010, 03:13:07 AM » |
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Ive nabbed a bunch but I am tired and depressed so I'll try again tomorrow. Wonder if this means the 3.5 boards will go poof now?
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Godless_Paladin
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2010, 03:47:05 AM » |
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Ive nabbed a bunch but I am tired and depressed so I'll try again tomorrow. Wonder if this means the 3.5 boards will go poof now?
A lot of the 3.5 boards ALREADY went poof. Quite a while ago. |
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2010, 04:32:29 AM » |
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Ive nabbed a bunch but I am tired and depressed so I'll try again tomorrow. Wonder if this means the 3.5 boards will go poof now?
A lot of the 3.5 boards ALREADY went poof. Quite a while ago. And it sucked. A lot of fun or useful threads were lost. |
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Godless_Paladin
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2010, 04:39:21 AM » |
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Ive nabbed a bunch but I am tired and depressed so I'll try again tomorrow. Wonder if this means the 3.5 boards will go poof now?
A lot of the 3.5 boards ALREADY went poof. Quite a while ago. And it sucked. A lot of fun or useful threads were lost. That's a massive understatement. There was a treasure trove of material there, including lots of stuff that easily could have been applied to, you guessed it, 4th edition. But, you know, everything must go! Punishment to the players! Seriously, WotC seems intent on doing everything within their power to piss off their fanbase. Legitimate ways to procure pdfs? Gone! A reasonable price for said pdfs? Never there to begin with, they were more expensive than the actual books much of the time! Lying to the customer base, such as (among MANY examples) making promises for features that will never be implemented, then deleting the preview articles that promised said features with 4e from their archives (remember the online tabletop? And so many other things). A strong fan community on your site? Well, better split them up and destroy the fruits of their works! Not just mechanics either, we'd better get rid of pure fluff boards for settings we intend to support in 4e, too. Oh, people actually liked to read their material at some point? Well, better start trimming that... I could go on and on. It's just an endless torrent of mismanagement. |
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2010, 05:03:11 AM » |
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Is it just me, or is it supremely fitting that the GitP thread is now locked?
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The_Laughing_Man
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2010, 05:24:46 AM » |
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I guess it will be in public domain in about 80 years. I'll be then playing my truly _venerable_ dragonwrought kobold.  |
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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2010, 06:54:47 AM » |
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There just needs to be a place that's saved everything for the poor folks who didn't get the word until it was too late.
That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase. I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it. I'm impressed. I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.
they will start to have to "Trim the Fat" from the 4th edition boards. soon they will lock all 50o topics for it as well and then maybe the community that annoys them so much will be gone. |
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2010, 07:27:54 AM » |
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That's a massive understatement. There was a treasure trove of material there, including lots of stuff that easily could have been applied to, you guessed it, 4th edition.
But, you know, everything must go! Punishment to the players!
Seriously, WotC seems intent on doing everything within their power to piss off their fanbase. Legitimate ways to procure pdfs? Gone! A reasonable price for said pdfs? Never there to begin with, they were more expensive than the actual books much of the time! Lying to the customer base, such as (among MANY examples) making promises for features that will never be implemented, then deleting the preview articles that promised said features with 4e from their archives (remember the online tabletop? And so many other things). A strong fan community on your site? Well, better split them up and destroy the fruits of their works! Not just mechanics either, we'd better get rid of pure fluff boards for settings we intend to support in 4e, too. Oh, people actually liked to read their material at some point? Well, better start trimming that...
I could go on and on. It's just an endless torrent of mismanagement.
Not to mention that at some point in 3.5 the books simply went down in quality. Loads of useless stuff for regular campaigns, lots of things It would be terribly easy for the DM to make up on the fly, and loads of terribly written fluff. With only rare gold nuggets that were well thought out. IMO Unearthed Arcana and Magic Item Compendium where too of the books outside core that helped you edit and change your game the most. |
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Monks are pretty much the best designed class ever.
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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2010, 12:51:21 PM » |
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That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase. I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it. I'm impressed. I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2010, 12:53:49 PM » |
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Could you put that binder pdf up somewhere? That sound handy.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38835505/Tome-of-Magic-Additional-Vestige-Collection-v2-1-2Apparently, jameswilliamogle is a co-author. I should send JWM a pm and check that he's ok with me posting it. |
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the most effective optimization is the one you can actually get away with.  (A group of nerds are called a murder because like crows we are anti-social, like shiny things, and often squack at each other over nothing for hours) I often have to remind people not to underrate divination. The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
[/quote] Binder? You're WelcomeZceryll makes Binders go from tier 3 to tier 2. Cagemarrow is a GeniusBefore giving the advice that build X would be better of with Fist of the Forest, take a long, good look at Primal Living. Twice. |
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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2010, 01:23:14 PM » |
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That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase. I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it. I'm impressed. I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.
D&D Essentials? Boy did THAT set the pants of some 4E fans on fire. If I didn't know better I'd think they're trying to drive all the old fans over to Pathfinder(for the vanilla 3.5 gamer), TOME(for those who like it CO style) or World of Darkness(for the just trying to have fun lot). |
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
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Prime32
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2010, 01:27:42 PM » |
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That said, WotC seems really, really intent on alienating their fanbase. I mean wow, they've really gotten good at it. I'm impressed. I wonder what they'll come up with next to lose points with their customers.
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My workDeviantArtCurrent gamesThe tier system in a nutshell: Tier 6: A cartographer. Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman. Tier 4: An expert marksman. Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left. Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy. Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2010, 01:38:36 PM » |
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I love that comic.
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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Ed-Zero
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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2010, 01:51:23 PM » |
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I love this pdf. The only thing that it could possibly use is the Epic Vestiges. |
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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2010, 01:54:05 PM » |
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Do it. I'm just an editor for that thing, really. AND SAVE THAT EPIC VESTIGE WEBPAGE! CRY! (That document was written long before the Epic Vestiges were written up) |
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Ed-Zero
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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2010, 01:59:38 PM » |
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Do it. I'm just an editor for that thing, really. AND SAVE THAT EPIC VESTIGE WEBPAGE! CRY! (That document was written long before the Epic Vestiges were written up) Oooh, they're being sneaky. They already pulled it down but you can find a cached copy still. |
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