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« Reply #480 on: October 15, 2010, 09:45:06 PM »

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Mindless: No Intelligence score, and immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects).

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An astral construct has immunity to poison, sleep, paralysis, stunning, disease, death effects, necromancy effects, mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects)
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« Reply #481 on: October 15, 2010, 09:52:12 PM »

So, a morale bonus is considered mind-affecting no matter the source, even if the source has no such descriptor?  Note that bardic music, the Rage spell, and many, many other morale bonus-granting abilities note the descriptors.
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« Reply #482 on: October 15, 2010, 11:47:10 PM »

Q150:
Is there any explicit text in Tome of Battle that states that you can not ready the same maneuver more than once? If so, where can I find it?
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« Reply #483 on: October 16, 2010, 12:01:04 AM »

Q150:
Is there any explicit text in Tome of Battle that states that you can not ready the same maneuver more than once? If so, where can I find it?

A150 Yes it does.  I can't find it right now but I am certain I saw it.
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« Reply #484 on: October 16, 2010, 12:13:09 AM »

Q150:
Is there any explicit text in Tome of Battle that states that you can not ready the same maneuver more than once? If so, where can I find it?

A150 Yes it does.  I can't find it right now but I am certain I saw it.

My understanding is that it was somewhat ambiguous in the book but the faq clearly says you cannot.
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« Reply #485 on: October 16, 2010, 01:27:47 AM »

Q 141: Is there anyway to make constructs affected by bardic music? Specifically Astral constructs (coming from a shaper/constructor) gaining the benefit of dragonfire inspiration.
Technically DFA isn't Mind-Affecting. Read it closely.
Inspire Courage itself is mind-affecting (like most if not all bardic music effects), and Dragonfire Inspiration is a modification of that ability. Thus it's still mind-affecting.

Additionally, all of that business about morale bonuses always being mind-affecting is just an assumption the designers made. And it's a poor one; sure, bardic music is mind-affecting, and so is Good Hope. But Barbarian Rage (core!) isn't along with Aura of Vitality (SC), Valiant Fury (SC and CWar before that), and Valiant Spirit (MoI).

Oh, and:
  • The DMG itself says nothing special about morale bonuses in the Bonuses list (page 21).
  • The PHB states that nonintelligent creatures cannot benefit, but makes no connection to the mind-affecting descriptor.
  • The Rules Compendium states that "such bonuses come from mind-affecting effects" (as above, false), but does not quite state that morale bonuses ARE mind-affecting effects.
Yeah, it's just a silly oversight based on common sources of morale bonuses. (Astral Constructs are still immune to all of them as they lack Int scores.)
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« Reply #486 on: October 16, 2010, 02:09:36 AM »

Q 151 Where can I find a list of all of the warlock's invocations?
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« Reply #487 on: October 16, 2010, 02:22:14 AM »

Oh, and:
  • The DMG itself says nothing special about morale bonuses in the Bonuses list (page 21).
  • The PHB states that nonintelligent creatures cannot benefit, but makes no connection to the mind-affecting descriptor.
  • The Rules Compendium states that "such bonuses come from mind-affecting effects" (as above, false), but does not quite state that morale bonuses ARE mind-affecting effects.
Yeah, it's just a silly oversight based on common sources of morale bonuses. (Astral Constructs are still immune to all of them as they lack Int scores.)
Spells that grant morale bonuses/penalties have the Mind-Affecting descriptor just as spells that deal fire damage have the Fire descriptor.  The lack of an explicit listing of said descriptors can be attributed just as easily to a silly oversight by WotC's editors as one can parse the words "[morale] bonuses come from mind-affecting effects" to mean that morale bonuses are not necessarily mind-affecting.
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« Reply #488 on: October 16, 2010, 02:28:44 AM »

Q 151 Where can I find a list of all of the warlock's invocations?
Is this complete enough?
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« Reply #489 on: October 16, 2010, 02:36:36 AM »

Q 151 Where can I find a list of all of the warlock's invocations?
Is this complete enough?
Close, but not quite. Was still missing at least one, which I found at Crystal Keep.

Voice of Madness(DR332 p212)
<Invocation(comp)[mind], VS, 1StdAct, Close-range, 1rnd + 1rnd per 2 levels, WillNeg, SR applies>
– One target is Confused.
Note: Followers of the Cult of the Dragon Below cast this spell at +1 level.
Effective Spell Level: 2nd.
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« Reply #490 on: October 16, 2010, 05:44:26 AM »

Oh, and:
  • The DMG itself says nothing special about morale bonuses in the Bonuses list (page 21).
  • The PHB states that nonintelligent creatures cannot benefit, but makes no connection to the mind-affecting descriptor.
  • The Rules Compendium states that "such bonuses come from mind-affecting effects" (as above, false), but does not quite state that morale bonuses ARE mind-affecting effects.
Yeah, it's just a silly oversight based on common sources of morale bonuses. (Astral Constructs are still immune to all of them as they lack Int scores.)
Spells that grant morale bonuses/penalties have the Mind-Affecting descriptor just as spells that deal fire damage have the Fire descriptor.  The lack of an explicit listing of said descriptors can be attributed just as easily to a silly oversight by WotC's editors as one can parse the words "[morale] bonuses come from mind-affecting effects" to mean that morale bonuses are not necessarily mind-affecting.
The bonuses given are not the same as the effects themselves; do not confuse the part with the whole. For instance, it is possible for a spell to deal force damage without the force descriptor - there's an ACF for sorcerers in Planar Handbook that converts half the energy damage dealt to force damage. Similarly, it's possible to deal negative energy damage without that same descriptor using the Black Lore of Moil feat. It's even possible to deal fire damage without that descriptor - just cast Vitrify (Sandstorm). Just because there is often a connection does not mean that a connection necessarily will always exist.

Besides, the text in the Rules Compendium is demonstrably incorrect. Hell, that bit about barbarians gaining a morale bonus to Will saves that's not mind-affecting has been around since 3.0.
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« Reply #491 on: October 16, 2010, 07:18:23 AM »

I know that morale is Mind-Affecting.
Where is this actually stated?  I know that most Morale bonuses are from mind-affecting effects, but I can think of two cases where this isn't the case (Barbarian Rage bonus to Will saves and the Aura of Vitality spell in Spell Compendium).
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Morale Modifier

A morale bonus represents the effects of greater hope, courage, and determination (or hopelessness, cowardice, and despair in the case of a morale penalty). Multiple morale bonuses on the same character do not stack. Only the highest morale bonus applies. Nonintelligent creatures (creatures with an Intelligence of 0 or no Intelligence at all) cannot benefit from morale bonuses.

It doesn't say mind effecting - just the intelligence qualification. Of course, this will eliminate many constructs and undead, but I don't see why it wouldn't affect anything with an intelligence score.


Q152: Is it possible to enchant a Dastana (From the Oriental Adventures), Armor, and shield, and get the better armor bonus from each?
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« Reply #492 on: October 16, 2010, 08:52:48 AM »

A 152: Sure.
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« Reply #493 on: October 16, 2010, 09:28:46 AM »

The Oriental Adventures FAQ says this:
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If you use a dastana or chahar-aina that has an enhancement bonus, does that bonus stack with or replace any enhancement bonuses the foundation armor might have? If you’re also using a magic shield, how does using a dastana or chahar-aina affect that? What happens if the armor and the dastana or chahar-aina both have additional special properties?

When you add a dastana or chahar-aina, you get either the enhancement bonus of the added piece or the enhancement bonus of the foundation armor (not a shield), whichever is bigger; if you add both a dastana or chahar-aina, you use the biggest enhancement bonus of the three.

A magic shield’s enhancement bonus still stacks with whatever enhancement bonus you’re using for the armor you’re wearing on your body.

No matter which enhancement bonus you use for the armor you’re wearing on your body, you get the benefit of any special armor qualities any of the items you’re using have, except that similar qualities don’t stack. For example, you wear a +3 chain shirt of light fortification, a +2 dastana of spell resistance (13), a +1 chahar-aina of spell resistance (17), and a +1 shield of heavy fortification. Your panoply of armor has a total enhancement bonus of +4 (+3 from the chain shirt and +1 from the shield), and you benefit from the heavy fortification and spell resistance (17) qualities of the shield and the chahar-aina.
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« Reply #494 on: October 16, 2010, 09:50:11 AM »

Q150:
Is there any explicit text in Tome of Battle that states that you can not ready the same maneuver more than once? If so, where can I find it?

A150 Yes it does.  I can't find it right now but I am certain I saw it.

My understanding is that it was somewhat ambiguous in the book but the faq clearly says you cannot.

Where can I find the FAQ?

Edit: I think I found it at http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20030221a unless it's out of date, but I searched the FAQ and found no mention of readying the same maneuver more than once.
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« Reply #495 on: October 16, 2010, 12:54:04 PM »

Q150:
Is there any explicit text in Tome of Battle that states that you can not ready the same maneuver more than once? If so, where can I find it?

A150 Yes it does.  I can't find it right now but I am certain I saw it.

My understanding is that it was somewhat ambiguous in the book but the faq clearly says you cannot.

Where can I find the FAQ?

Edit: I think I found it at http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20030221a unless it's out of date, but I searched the FAQ and found no mention of readying the same maneuver more than once.

Isn't ToB the book where the Errata changed halfway through to Complete Mage's?

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« Reply #496 on: October 16, 2010, 01:41:26 PM »

Q154:  Does Dragon Magazine have any Swift Hunter style feats that stack two different class levels for the advanced of class features?
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« Reply #497 on: October 16, 2010, 02:13:25 PM »

Q154:  Does Dragon Magazine have any Swift Hunter style feats that stack two different class levels for the advanced of class features?

Yes there are a few in dragon 357.
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« Reply #498 on: October 16, 2010, 02:17:23 PM »

Isn't ToB the book where the Errata changed halfway through to Complete Mage's?
We wish it had gotten that far.  It barely begun before it changed mid-word to Complete Mage.
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« Reply #499 on: October 16, 2010, 03:11:17 PM »

Q155: Is there a spell to throw a weapon?
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