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« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2009, 07:52:20 AM »

I'm ready  Mad Mad Mad Bang Head Bang Head Bang Head  BRING ON THE PAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
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« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2009, 04:15:24 PM »

You might want to unlock the thread for Alastar to post, Tshern. Wink
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« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2009, 04:29:27 PM »

And let him have an actual chance?
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« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2009, 06:38:14 PM »

Incidentally, Extended Shapechange would last longer than Persistent Shapechange in your case. A choice is a choice, I suppose.
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« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2009, 06:56:27 PM »

I had some higher level spell slots to pick....

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« Reply #85 on: March 29, 2009, 02:00:35 AM »

Looking forward to this. Good luck. Hopefully you make it further than your predecessors. Big Grin
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« Reply #86 on: March 29, 2009, 10:43:19 AM »

Hopefully I'll knock the bastard down Smile
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« Reply #87 on: March 29, 2009, 02:00:30 PM »

Good luck Smile
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« Reply #88 on: March 29, 2009, 05:14:58 PM »

Just realized something. You can see through all matter?
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« Reply #89 on: March 29, 2009, 05:18:09 PM »

Just realized something. You can see through all matter?
In other words, he's practically blind? Big Grin
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« Reply #90 on: March 29, 2009, 05:47:02 PM »

True.
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« Reply #91 on: March 29, 2009, 07:04:47 PM »

Yeah, ic an see throught all matter, but like, see throught doesn't mean they're invisible, I'm still aware the matter is there, so while i can look throught a body, it doesn't mean the thing is invisible to me.

I,ll modify the wording if you want.
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« Reply #92 on: March 30, 2009, 12:15:10 AM »

Similar to viewing an illusion you know is an illusion. You can see through it, but still know it's there and can kind of see it. It's magic.
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« Reply #93 on: March 30, 2009, 05:04:10 AM »

The question is, how do you think you are seeing through matter. Clearsight has a pretty straightforward wording regarding that.
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« Reply #94 on: March 30, 2009, 09:06:49 AM »

Winds of change on my armor.  Works like a ray of x-ray vision, but on my armor, and not blocked by lead, and applying to my vision as far as it can go.  And not causeing cons damage.  It's an x-ray vision ring on crack, probly worth around 400-500k, but my armor is pretty expensive.
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« Reply #95 on: March 30, 2009, 07:15:50 PM »

Sort of sucks to find this out at this point, but I believe your character might be illegal. Correct me if I am wrong.

You have +5 LA to craft. That means 70k+71k+72k+73k+74k worth of experience points. That would be 360k. Your epic spells amount to cost 372600 xp. Adding in your artifact armour gives +500k and your sword +600k. My math could be way off though.

Edit: Factoring in another 500k from the shield.
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« Reply #96 on: March 30, 2009, 07:29:51 PM »

Ok, here's how I'm going to work around this, if it's ok with you, considering i have like 40 mill gold remaining, for the development of each of my 9 epic spells, i will buy a rod of excellent magic, cutting 2000 exp from the development cost. Making the total be 18k higher, it's a start.

I will add a level 9 spell to be cast on every spell, as a ritual spell.  The level 9 slot is supplied by the aforementioned Muriel.  On all of Nameless's spells, this means a 6120 xp break per spell (-17 to the DC).  Amounting to 7 x 6120= 42840.

18k + 42840 = 60 840.

This is for the spells.

As for the artefacts... well i hadn't thought of that....  they're way too expensive to be paid by my own exp, and i kinda priced them pretty fast... not thinking i actually had to count them...

I could make a more accurate estimate as to their real price.  But can't it be done that I just paid for the base item and then added the artefactly powers, thus paying only for the additional cost and not the base cost of the epic items (the price for the sword is 8 millions and the armors are 4 millions for both the shield and the armor, that's not counting the flute)?

Or could I pay with gold for the remaining exp at a 25 gold = 1 exp rate?  effectively doubling their price but making
it more possible?
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« Reply #97 on: March 30, 2009, 07:48:29 PM »

Ok, modified my spells a bit, they now amount to a total cost of: 7,803,000 gp.

Thus: 312 120 xp.  -18 000 with the rods 294 120.

The total sum of my artefacts is 42 millions.  If i were allowed to pay double for them, to turn gp into exp, they would cost me 84 millions, still well within my aloted cash expectancies.  Heck, i could pay triple!  I will now price them well, and see where that takes us.

Sword:
base item 7,220,000

Deals blunt or slashing damage: 5k
All powers related to dealing bonus sneak attack and sneak attack modifications: 600 k (they're not that strong)
Hardness Bypassing: 300k (things allow that anyways already)

Total cost: 8 125 000

Armor:

Base item:2,250,000 + 2,160,000 (ring of universal energy immunity) + 12 000 (belt of battle) +100 to spellcraft (10 million), +30 to 4 skills (3 600 000)
Permanent Elemental body (182 000), Permanent Death ward (56 000)=

Winds of Change power:  ring of X-ray vision on crack (300 000)

total: 18,560, 000  (but most of it is base price)

Shield:

BAse Item: +10 resistance (1 000 000), +10 animated shield (1 440 000), 4x greater spell immunity permanent ( 960 000)
ring of chameleon power (12 700)

True Resurection Once a month: 500 000 gp
Does not count as wearing a shield: 50 000 gp
Eschew material+ Contingency Focus: 100 000 gp

Total Cost: 4,062,700

Flute: 10 millions

Total cost of artefacts:40,747,700 gp
Total cost of things that can be base price(or fluff):38,892,700
Total costs of things I'd have to pay xp for: 1,855,000
Or: 74,200 xp

Still short some 8k exp.  To counter this, i will buy two more rods of high spellcasting, and use them in my epic spells of cheat and mate you missplaced your spell, Bringing both their spellcraft 20 lower, and cutting 360 000 gp development cost, giving me 14 400 xp back.  I now have enough to cast a wish spell Smile
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« Reply #98 on: March 30, 2009, 08:31:57 PM »

Slight modification i had thought about doing, but forgot to actually do: Get persisted Iron Guard as a level 13 spell, x3, hope it's not too much of a bother?

Iron guard is SpC
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« Reply #99 on: March 31, 2009, 05:10:17 AM »

Okay, I might have been unclear about the artifacts, but good thing we managed to settle this without cutting the challenge sort.
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