[3.5] The New Fighter [PEACH]

[AlphaBravo]

Potentially. 3 Swappable Feats/4 Levels is nice.

[raith0]

Potentially. 3 Swappable Feats/4 Levels is nice.

i still stand by the fact that you shouldnt need to meet the prereqs for them but yes 3 per 4 isnt shabby

[RobbyPants]

My question about the IL boost is: did you do this to design the fighter to multiclass?  Really, that's what the feature does.  So, either you dip a few levels of fighter for the feats and play a martial adept, or you play a fighter, and dip out to a MA class at key levels when your IL increases to pick up the top level maneuvers to augment your fighter class.

Although, if nothing else, I suppose it does make Martial Study and Martial Stance nicer.  If you remove the three cap on MS, it could be pretty handy for a straight-classed fighter, too.  Alternately, you could set the max on MS to be 3 or your fighter class level, whichever is higher.

[raith0]

My question about the IL boost is: did you do this to design the fighter to multiclass?  Really, that's what the feature does.  So, either you dip a few levels of fighter for the feats and play a martial adept, or you play a fighter, and dip out to a MA class at key levels when your IL increases to pick up the top level maneuvers to augment your fighter class.

Although, if nothing else, I suppose it does make Martial Study and Martial Stance nicer.  If you remove the three cap on MS, it could be pretty handy for a straight-classed fighter, too.  Alternately, you could set the max on MS to be 3 or your fighter class level, whichever is higher.

and just to add to this a little bit.  if you design a class to either be a dip class or to dip into another class you have a seriouse design flaw.  ever feature of the class should be good without the need for another class to make it useful

[AlphaBravo]

I design the fighter to be multiclassable but not only useful as a dip. If you have any idea on how to do this, thanks.

[raith0]

one way with your setup is to give them a maneuver progression and recovery mechanic and instead of just getting 3/4th there level give them a slower level progression for the maneuver level they can use similiar to a bard or partial caster.

another is to just allow them to take the Martial Study feat more often than normaly allowed

[lans]

The battle feat as a move action is a psuedo recovery mechanic.

Maybe changing  the battle feat mechanic to get one maneuver back at one step faster than the battle feat would allow a feat swap?

So instead of swapping White Raven Tactics for White Raven Tactics as a standard action it recovers it as a move action.

[lans]

Where would people put this class tier wise now?