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[weenog]

Q 29 How many domain powers does a cleric gain access to on any given day? Like a cleric/ordained champion/contemplative would have many domains, but only access the spells from one of them (unless they had the Spontaneous Domains feat or ACF). But how many of the powers would they have access to?

Where did you get the idea that a cleric only has access to spells from one of his domains per day?  Is this another creation of your parade of retard DMs?  A cleric only has one domain slot per spell level, and has to choose from which domain to fill each slot, but there's no reason he can't fill different levels of domain slots with spells from different domains.

Also, it's explicitly stated that a cleric with 2 domains gets the granted powers of both.  Simple enough to figure out what happens if he has 3 or more domains.

Both DMs actually have states the first part. It's a matter of interpretation.

With access to two domain spells at a given spell level, a cleric prepares one or the other each day in his domain spell slot.

You get one, or the other. Their argument being, if you could have one spell from each domain, you wouldn't need a feat like Spontaneous Domains, which allows you to choose different spells from the domains.

No, it's a matter of selective reading.  They're ignoring the underlined part, probably for no other reason than to be dicks, if your other posts about them are any indication.  Obviously you only prepare one or the other, because it's talking about a single spell slot, not all of your domain spell slots.

[Takanaki]

Q301 aka Q30 : Where can I find the Valiant weapon enhancement, I heard it gives more damage on charging.

[Kuroimaken]

Q301 aka Q30 : Where can I find the Valiant weapon enhancement, I heard it gives more damage on charging.

If I'm not mistaken, Champions of Valor.

[bearchucks]

Q 29 How many domain powers does a cleric gain access to on any given day? Like a cleric/ordained champion/contemplative would have many domains, but only access the spells from one of them (unless they had the Spontaneous Domains feat or ACF). But how many of the powers would they have access to?

Where did you get the idea that a cleric only has access to spells from one of his domains per day?  Is this another creation of your parade of retard DMs?  A cleric only has one domain slot per spell level, and has to choose from which domain to fill each slot, but there's no reason he can't fill different levels of domain slots with spells from different domains.

Also, it's explicitly stated that a cleric with 2 domains gets the granted powers of both.  Simple enough to figure out what happens if he has 3 or more domains.

Both DMs actually have states the first part. It's a matter of interpretation.

With access to two domain spells at a given spell level, a cleric prepares one or the other each day in his domain spell slot.

You get one, or the other. Their argument being, if you could have one spell from each domain, you wouldn't need a feat like Spontaneous Domains, which allows you to choose different spells from the domains.

No, it's a matter of selective reading.  They're ignoring the underlined part, probably for no other reason than to be dicks, if your other posts about them are any indication.  Obviously you only prepare one or the other, because it's talking about a single spell slot, not all of your domain spell slots.

Okay.  All of this stuff can get handled pretty simple.  Lirr is one of my favorite deities in greyhawk--because her domains include Travel and Magic (among other things giving me identify for free).  Domain powers, if you have the domain you have the power.  The freedom of movement thing and the pretend-to-be-a-wizard thing you get both of (in fact you could have both simultaneously under a designed circumstance).  If you add a third, you've got a third power.

Domain spells...run like this: You get your cleric spells.  You pick them from the cleric spell list.  Just because you picked Bear's Endurance at 2nd doesn't mean you are forced to have Mass Bear's at 6th.  In your domain slot, you pick spells from your "domain list", the spell list consisting of all domains you possess.  So, back to Lirr, for the second level domain slot, you could pick Locate Object (from Travel) or Identify.  And then at 3rd level you can pick Fly or Dispel Magic.

[kevin_video]

I'm glad I've got you guys to fall back on and ask, otherwise I might never know how to play or DM D&D properly. ^^;

[Nagukuk]

I'm glad I've got you guys to fall back on and ask, otherwise I might never know how to play or DM D&D properly. ^^;

Perhaps the DM(s) was/were still thinking in 2nd edition terms - back then you only had access to spells that were in the Domains Granted by your Deity.

[kevin_video]

I'm glad I've got you guys to fall back on and ask, otherwise I might never know how to play or DM D&D properly. ^^;

Perhaps the DM(s) was/were still thinking in 2nd edition terms - back then you only had access to spells that were in the Domains Granted by your Deity.

That makes sense for the second DM. He came directly into 3.5 from 2nd just under a year ago.

[McPoyo]

No reason they shouldn't.  All the Rite of Rebirth requires is Int 3 or higher, non-evil alignment, 2 days of meditation and sleep, a few dragonscales and an egg made of parts worth 100 gp.  The sleep is the hardest part, and it's brought up time and again in the rules that things that don't sleep can still get benefits of things requiring sleep as long as they take an inactive period of the same length.

To really fuck with your mind, be aware that a warforged could go duskblade -> dragon disciple and become a half-dragon half-warforged, despite not being a creature type the template applies to, and certainly not having a drop of dragon blood (or any other blood, for that matter).

Yeah... that really does mess with my mind.   It just doesn't seem possible. Now here's the thing with that, and why it scares me. The words from my DM "Oh, we'll see about that." when I said I'd eventually go warforged so he couldn't fuck with me and add template levels again, against my will.

Keep in mind, WotC specifically said Warforged can become liches and other forms of undead, so...

edit: Half-dragon warforged Dry Lich, anyone?

[kevin_video]

No reason they shouldn't.  All the Rite of Rebirth requires is Int 3 or higher, non-evil alignment, 2 days of meditation and sleep, a few dragonscales and an egg made of parts worth 100 gp.  The sleep is the hardest part, and it's brought up time and again in the rules that things that don't sleep can still get benefits of things requiring sleep as long as they take an inactive period of the same length.

To really fuck with your mind, be aware that a warforged could go duskblade -> dragon disciple and become a half-dragon half-warforged, despite not being a creature type the template applies to, and certainly not having a drop of dragon blood (or any other blood, for that matter).

Yeah... that really does mess with my mind.  It just doesn't seem possible. Now here's the thing with that, and why it scares me. The words from my DM "Oh, we'll see about that." when I said I'd eventually go warforged so he couldn't fuck with me and add template levels again, against my will.

Keep in mind, WotC specifically said Warforged can become liches and other forms of undead, so...

You're frightening me. This would mean that my Friday DM has full reign to do whatever he pleases with any character I come up with, no matter what I choose.

[Beltendu]

No reason they shouldn't.  All the Rite of Rebirth requires is Int 3 or higher, non-evil alignment, 2 days of meditation and sleep, a few dragonscales and an egg made of parts worth 100 gp.  The sleep is the hardest part, and it's brought up time and again in the rules that things that don't sleep can still get benefits of things requiring sleep as long as they take an inactive period of the same length.

To really fuck with your mind, be aware that a warforged could go duskblade -> dragon disciple and become a half-dragon half-warforged, despite not being a creature type the template applies to, and certainly not having a drop of dragon blood (or any other blood, for that matter).

Yeah... that really does mess with my mind.  It just doesn't seem possible. Now here's the thing with that, and why it scares me. The words from my DM "Oh, we'll see about that." when I said I'd eventually go warforged so he couldn't fuck with me and add template levels again, against my will.

Keep in mind, WotC specifically said Warforged can become liches and other forms of undead, so...

You're frightening me. This would mean that my Friday DM has full reign to do whatever he pleases with any character I come up with, no matter what I choose.

Technically speaking, that's true of ANY GM - with a limit of how far he/she can go before you either leave or cast "Drop Table on GM"...   You obviously have a very, very high tolerance.  To the point where some of us might consider it a super power ...

[Arz]

Q31 If you crit on the backstroke and apply divine justice, would you double(triple, etc) the damage he did to you that you saved up? What other forms of damage could be applied on top of your saved damage?

[McPoyo]

Q31 If you crit on the backstroke and apply divine justice, would you double(triple, etc) the damage he did to you that you saved up? What other forms of damage could be applied on top of your saved damage?

Divine Justice is either your regular damage, or the damage they dealt to you on that one attack. You can't combine DJ with other things, or multiply it, because of the way the feat is read.

[Archao]

Q301 aka Q30 : Where can I find the Valiant weapon enhancement, I heard it gives more damage on charging.

If I'm not mistaken, Champions of Valor.

I didn't find any such enhancement in Champions of Valor, but there is the Valorous enhancement from Unapproachable East pages 54 and 55. It's a +1 bonus that doubles damage dealt from the charge action.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

No reason they shouldn't.  All the Rite of Rebirth requires is Int 3 or higher, non-evil alignment, 2 days of meditation and sleep, a few dragonscales and an egg made of parts worth 100 gp.  The sleep is the hardest part, and it's brought up time and again in the rules that things that don't sleep can still get benefits of things requiring sleep as long as they take an inactive period of the same length.

To really fuck with your mind, be aware that a warforged could go duskblade -> dragon disciple and become a half-dragon half-warforged, despite not being a creature type the template applies to, and certainly not having a drop of dragon blood (or any other blood, for that matter).

Yeah... that really does mess with my mind.  It just doesn't seem possible. Now here's the thing with that, and why it scares me. The words from my DM "Oh, we'll see about that." when I said I'd eventually go warforged so he couldn't fuck with me and add template levels again, against my will.

Keep in mind, WotC specifically said Warforged can become liches and other forms of undead, so...

You're frightening me. This would mean that my Friday DM has full reign to do whatever he pleases with any character I come up with, no matter what I choose.

You'd be surprised how few templates apply to mindless nonliving outsiders.  Ask to play a dustform somethingoranother with the otherworldly feat (acquired via celestial-attended-birth).  I mean, you have less roleplaying (you have no brain), but on the plus side not many templates will stick.

[kevin_video]

No reason they shouldn't.  All the Rite of Rebirth requires is Int 3 or higher, non-evil alignment, 2 days of meditation and sleep, a few dragonscales and an egg made of parts worth 100 gp.  The sleep is the hardest part, and it's brought up time and again in the rules that things that don't sleep can still get benefits of things requiring sleep as long as they take an inactive period of the same length.

To really fuck with your mind, be aware that a warforged could go duskblade -> dragon disciple and become a half-dragon half-warforged, despite not being a creature type the template applies to, and certainly not having a drop of dragon blood (or any other blood, for that matter).

Yeah... that really does mess with my mind.  It just doesn't seem possible. Now here's the thing with that, and why it scares me. The words from my DM "Oh, we'll see about that." when I said I'd eventually go warforged so he couldn't fuck with me and add template levels again, against my will.

Keep in mind, WotC specifically said Warforged can become liches and other forms of undead, so...

You're frightening me. This would mean that my Friday DM has full reign to do whatever he pleases with any character I come up with, no matter what I choose.

You'd be surprised how few templates apply to mindless nonliving outsiders.  Ask to play a dustform somethingoranother with the otherworldly feat (acquired via celestial-attended-birth).  I mean, you have less roleplaying (you have no brain), but on the plus side not many templates will stick.

Oh he'd just add fiendish or celestial so you wouldn't be mindless anymore.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Can't apply fiendish or celestial to outsiders.

[PhaedrusXY]

Can't apply fiendish or celestial to outsiders.

Psh. When has kevin's DM let a little thing like the rules get in the way of his megalomaniacal domination of his PCs?

[bearchucks]

Q32: Why hasn't Kevin_video decided to GM himself yet, given his bad luck with finding a good one?

[Senevri]

Q33: Elan's Resilience isn't a power - it's a SU ability. This means an Elan Metamind can negate ANY amount of HP damage 1/round?

[kevin_video]

Q32: Why hasn't Kevin_video decided to GM himself yet, given his bad luck with finding a good one?

I have, many times. Just not the Friday group. They're a little out of my league. Sunday's group I plan on taking over though. I also had my own two groups, but one had to disband due to the fact that two people moved away, and the other group and I had various disagreements over the games we each GMed.

Other than that, I just do up one-shots for conventions.