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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2010, 10:20:15 AM »

I don't see False Peacebound in Complete Scoundrel. Where exactly is it from, then?
Cityscape, I believe.
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Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2010, 10:25:13 AM »

I have put my abbreviations next to the books in my books added list. Is there any standard for them that I have not used?
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2010, 10:30:39 AM »

WotC uses them in their source lists, like the feat index and the like. Cityscape is typically abbreviated Ci.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2010, 09:40:52 PM »

Thanks for the clarification.
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Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2010, 05:43:04 AM »

A small update, where can one find the Lesser Planetouched races?
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2010, 07:54:31 AM »

The base Planetouched themselves are in various places, including the Monster Manual.

For the "Lesser" rule variant, it's in the Player's Guide To Faerun, pg 190+.

Edit: The_Mad_Linguist's Planetouched Handbook may also have information you can use.
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2010, 07:08:34 AM »

Any opinions on base classes or prestige classes that go well with the Chameleon? Well ones that I have not put up yet.
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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2010, 09:14:01 AM »

The major goals seem to be:
Gain +16 BAB or higher and do Combat/Arcane Foci
Go +15 BAB or lower, get the ability to Turn outside of Chameleon, and get Extend Spell, Persistent Spell, and Divine Metamagic(Persistent Spell). Then Combat/Divine Foci.

Horizon Walker(Desert) is very useful for making Rage useful as it cancels fatigue, a problem with the real quick duration of Chameleon ability. Because of Able Learner, it isn't hard to qualify for the PrC by 13th level without needing Ranger levels.

Exemplar(CV) is useful for a 1 level Dip - gives Skill Mastery(for UMD in particular) and makes all skills class skills.

Exotic Weapon Master 1: Uncanny Blow is useful for any strength-based build, as their ability to add a decent bonus to strength makes them powerful here.

1 level of Bard, Rogue, Cleric(Trickery Domain), Ninja(CV), Warlock(CA) and Psion (Shaper) can qualify for the class by 6th level. Bloodhound(CV), Justiciar and Assassin have Bluff and Disguise as class skills without having difficult entry requirements. With the feat City Slicker, Hexblade, Marshal, Spellthief(CV), Swashbuckler and Psion (Telepath), Wilder, and Sorcerer can qualify. With the feat Draconic Heritage(Silver Dragon), Sorcerer can qualify.


Useful Dips for the first 5 levels
Hexblade 3: Mettle, Arcane Resistance
Monk 2: Evasion, 3 feats, saves
Rogue 3: Evasion, +2d6 Sneak
Ranger 3: Endurance, 2 other feats, saves
Fighter 2: Feats
Cleric 1: Turning, possibly feats, possibly necessary class skills
Paladin 4: Divine Grace, Turning
Bard 4: 2nd level casting with +3 BAB
Barbarian 2: Actual Rage(for Rage feats), Uncanny Dodge
Marshal 1,3,5: Motivate Attributes can be very powerful.

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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2010, 12:00:40 PM »

Incarnate4: Crown, Feet, Hands, +1 Essentia Cap
Totemist2: Totem
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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2010, 07:29:16 PM »

Any opinions on base classes or prestige classes that go well with the Chameleon? Well ones that I have not put up yet.

Warblade works quite nicely, IMO. Factotum 8/Warblade 2/Chameleon 10 is pretty solid. Lots of Int synergy, IHS/WRT, and lots of stuff to blow your standard actions on.
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« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2010, 11:15:50 AM »

A couple of updates, classes and a summary of all the spells from the wizards point of view. Its easier to use if you want to find a specific spell.
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« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2010, 11:50:28 AM »

Need to edit your spell categories.  Level 1 spoiler contains level 2 spells, leel 2 has 3rd, ect...



Edit: Er, nevermind.  Looks like the (X) notes on spells is showing where they are in the Full Caster lists compared to the earlier acquisition.
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« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2010, 04:31:26 PM »

iirc DH_ in his Miracle at level 6 thread, had a Chameleon variant, using the DMM Heighten stuff on the Cham advancement.
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« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2010, 07:51:35 AM »

Anyone got any nifty tricks with the Chameleon?

Currently I can think of using Planar Touchstone (Catalogues of Enlightenment) + Improved Sigil (Krau) + Extra Slot and using the Open Minded feat to brush up on exotic skills you might need or to retry learning a spell that you have failed the spellcraft check to learn.
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« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2010, 01:07:55 PM »

Well... there is dipping 1 level in Master of the Masks to gain proficiency in all Martial Weapons...

Unfortunately, MoM sucks hard.

Sadly, you can't use Arcane/Divine focus to qualify for feats or PrCs. If this was not the case,
Mystic Theurge would effectively advance you 2 CL per level.

Sadly, it doesn't work.
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Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".

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« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2010, 01:37:12 PM »

Well... there is dipping 1 level in Master of the Masks to gain proficiency in all Martial Weapons...

Unfortunately, MoM sucks hard.

Sadly, you can't use Arcane/Divine focus to qualify for feats or PrCs. If this was not the case,
Mystic Theurge would effectively advance you 2 CL per level.

Sadly, it doesn't work.
Or fighter, or paladin, or ranger, or...
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Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2010, 02:03:05 PM »

I think he meant exotic weapons.
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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2010, 02:03:46 PM »

Yeah, I meant Exotic. It was a typo.
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Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".

My final project for my film independent study course. It could do with a watching and critiquing
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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2010, 09:53:29 AM »

Is work in progress on the Divine Focus spells choices?  Do you need a hand with it?
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2010, 07:16:08 PM »

I have not started looking up the divine spells, but if you want to do it it would be a great help. If you do decide to help out could you keep the same formatting I have?

<Name of spell> (<actual level><'a' if it appears on wiz/sorc list> - <source if not SpC or Core>)

List only the spells that are either on the wizard/sorcerer spell list (and not Druid or Cleric) or spells that are lower than a Druid or Cleric's version
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