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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2010, 08:30:45 AM »

Personally I use the Spellbond Familiar feat (30ft range for shared buffs) and just loaded buffs onto this guy.
Companion Spellbond is a great feat.  The next chance I get to play a Druid I want to be from the frigid north, have this feat, and then cast Obscuring Snow and Snowsight on myself (Frostburn).  My companion and I can be a blowing snowstorm of pouncing death, our sight unhindered by the blowing snow.

I used that spell combo on my factomeleon... hour/level concealment that doesn't hinder you for the cost of a 2nd and a (few) 1st level slots? Awesome!
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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2010, 09:32:03 AM »

Just curious why it would cost a few 1st level slots?  Both spells are 1 hr/level.  Share spells means it auto shares with your companion, and with Companion Spellbond, it won't end on your Animal Companion so long as it stays within your sphere of swirling snow.
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2010, 11:57:06 AM »

Sorry I didn't do a very good job of saying what I was thinking... I used a couple more slots to give my allies snowsight, too. That way the whole adventuring family could have a good time.
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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2010, 12:13:27 PM »

My favorite time to be a Druid is the low levels, since you get to really use the Animal Companion

At lvl 3 you can get a War Trained Riding Dog with masterwork studded leather barding Armor:

4d8+8 hp (26)
AC of 22 (6 Natural, 3 Dex, 3 Armor)
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GETS HIS OWN TURN

Personally I use the Spellbond Familiar feat (30ft range for shared buffs) and just loaded buffs onto this guy.  Sure your not cranking out damage, but that dog would not die in any normal encounter.  The trick is to be prepared and utilize the fact that you just have more actions than everyone else (exept GOD wizards). Your Natures Batman, live it up.
You can start out at level 1 with a riding dog, and even then you should be able to afford to stick hide barding on it. Since "war trained" just seems to be having the "combat riding" set of tricks, you should be able to have that starting out on it, also. So it will have a trip attack. It will likely be at least as good of a tank as the party's fighter.
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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2010, 09:47:13 PM »

and as far as a druid dieing when really one shouldnt my last Druid died in combat and i knew going into the session and fight that he more than likely would die. 
heres the set up and the why just for some food for thought.

level 9ish ( 1 or 2 people were 10 and the other 3-4 people where 9 forget who was who ).
i was the spiritual leader of a tribe who had been sent to retrieve something ( few years ago ) as part of my asscenion to tribal leader.  while i was gone the BBEG kidnapped my mother and killed my father ( leader of the tribe) was going to use here for some ritual to bane and we got to the scene at just the lsat moment.  being an orc barbarian/druid  i felt byt he way i had played the character that he would just fly off the handle and go head long into the fray to get the BBEG off his mother and not let the blade drop to kill her.  so he took 3 AoOs and charged in to bull rush him away leaving him surrounded.  elemental campanion in tow to help out but were we left surrounded for the first few rounds of the combat.

the group saved my mother but at the cost of my druid.  but just barely.  out of character i wouldnt of made the charge attack without my full set of buffs on ( needed the round per level ones still ) .  so yes i did die to Bad tatics but it was for the betterment of the RP part of the game. 

all in all i felt it was a good way to go.  and the DM had my earth elemental become my "gaurdian" and Tomb in a sense when the clan burried me. 

so sometimes its good that your druid dies.
( i choose to not have him ressurected )

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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2010, 03:34:22 PM »

and as far as a druid dieing when really one shouldnt my last Druid died in combat and i knew going into the session and fight that he more than likely would die.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense.

Sounds like she got too hung up on the method she wanted to use, and didn't focus enough on the nature of the job that needed to be done.  Somewhat like brushing... teeth with a hammer.
I really like the analogy
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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2010, 04:33:53 PM »

and as far as a druid dieing when really one shouldnt my last Druid died in combat and i knew going into the session and fight that he more than likely would die.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense.
lol. I can't tell if this is trolling, a real post, or a bot. The second half of the post is written intelligently enough that it makes me think that the first half is an ingenious troll. So Bravo!  Laugh Clap
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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2010, 04:40:56 PM »

and as far as a druid dieing when really one shouldnt my last Druid died in combat and i knew going into the session and fight that he more than likely would die.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense.

Sounds like she got too hung up on the method she wanted to use, and didn't focus enough on the nature of the job that needed to be done.  Somewhat like brushing... teeth with a hammer.
I really like the analogy
Ditto.

When you use a tool the way it was designed for -- its intended function -- then it will work very well for you.

But it's not the tool's fault if you use it for something else and you fail utterly, such as trying to eat cereal with a butterknife, pounding nails with a screwdriver, blogging to voice your political opinions, and brushing your teeth with a hammer.

Holy crappin confusion the first half!!!! Twitch
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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2010, 09:31:01 PM »

Even more incoherent than I was last night...impressive, sir.  Clap
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« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2010, 10:12:04 PM »

I understand.. "It's just common sense." lol.

o.O;

Druids.. really. Why are you dying? Get a pair and cast some spells! lol! Produce Flame, bear form (Or better, depending on your level), and go tear them asunder!!!
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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2010, 11:41:41 PM »

...I agree with whatever he said, it's just common sense.
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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2010, 11:49:52 PM »

Even more incoherent than I was last night...impressive, sir.  Clap
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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2010, 11:55:57 PM »

and as far as a druid dieing when really one shouldnt my last Druid died in combat and i knew going into the session and fight that he more than likely would die.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense.
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« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2010, 04:47:54 AM »

Even more incoherent than I was last night...impressive, sir.  Clap
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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2010, 05:50:21 AM »

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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense.
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« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2010, 06:57:19 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2010, 09:21:10 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2010, 09:35:11 AM »

At least no one can accuse us of eschewing a little too much zeal for unoriginal nonsense.
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« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2010, 10:00:13 AM »

This looks like it'll be famous. Anyone sigged it yet?
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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2010, 08:38:28 AM »

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