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« Reply #900 on: March 01, 2011, 11:02:59 AM » |
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The Marc should absolutely take option B. That strength check was hilarious.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
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« Reply #901 on: March 01, 2011, 11:12:22 AM » |
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« Reply #902 on: March 02, 2011, 06:35:40 AM » |
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« Reply #903 on: March 02, 2011, 07:13:14 AM » |
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Glitterdust is SR: No... Vivà conjuracion! Huh? Crap. Well, he got through, anyway, but his DC isn't good, so it was still lucky. I only kept thinking about whether SLAs need to overcome SR, I didn't even think about the spell. This reminds me, congratulations on breaking the Dance of Ruin, which hadn't, by strict RAW, even started yet. They only had a move action left to start dancing . You've also now got their attention, and three rounds less of them not attacking anyone. Oh, and Omen: With Mael's HP even two of the critters breathing on you will seriously inconvenience you, so... better do something about that. I had half a mind to do my messy initiative order again, in which case Mael would probably already be dead now. |
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« Reply #904 on: March 02, 2011, 08:51:52 AM » |
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Whose turn is it now?
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #905 on: March 02, 2011, 09:47:20 AM » |
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@BP: don't forget they must make a Will save DC 22 before attacking him in any way. Perhaps not too hard given the modifiers they seem to have, but still...
And hey, he made two of them flee for a short while - he can't be expected to take care of 4 of them!
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« Reply #906 on: March 02, 2011, 06:10:50 PM » |
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Whose turn is it now?
I don't know whose turn it is. If you haven't made a post for the current round, just do so. @BP: don't forget they must make a Will save DC 22 before attacking him in any way. Perhaps not too hard given the modifiers they seem to have, but still...
And hey, he made two of them flee for a short while - he can't be expected to take care of 4 of them!
Well, it's not trivial, considering at least one didn't manage to save vs Doyle's measly DC. So... even though they have a greater then 50% chance of beating the DC, they might not . But they can still fry you, because your chance of beating their DC for half damage is way worse. |
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« Reply #907 on: March 02, 2011, 07:06:42 PM » |
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While Mael is certainly the most vulnerable, I'm going to venture a guess that Daelric could get fried as well so... he's in good company. It'd be more work for you, but keeping track of who hasn't acted yet in a round sounds wise... I forgot to mention it before, but I've started using Google Docs to make shared maps and it works fairly well ( example). It wouldn't work for you (threatened area would likely be a pain to make) but it could be useful to keep track of status. |
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« Reply #908 on: March 02, 2011, 08:07:49 PM » |
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If we're still in round 7, I've already acted, but I think we might be in round 8, in which case I haven't. I lost track somewhere after I posted my round 7 action.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #909 on: March 02, 2011, 08:59:29 PM » |
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I acted already this round.
For future reference it might work better to have everyone state their actions, then BP resolves in order. Works pretty well in another game I'm in.
Do we keep one init for the whole combat? I forgot...
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« Reply #910 on: March 03, 2011, 05:22:48 AM » |
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While Mael is certainly the most vulnerable, I'm going to venture a guess that Daelric could get fried as well so... he's in good company. It'd be more work for you, but keeping track of who hasn't acted yet in a round sounds wise... I forgot to mention it before, but I've started using Google Docs to make shared maps and it works fairly well ( example). It wouldn't work for you (threatened area would likely be a pain to make) but it could be useful to keep track of status. I have a spreadsheet to do all my rolling, and it includes a status sheet, but only for the NPCs. Hmm... Well, round 8 has just begun, noone has acted in it, yet. |
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« Reply #911 on: March 05, 2011, 11:17:05 AM » |
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I believe it's the Vrock's turn now... I hit AC 22 which would normally be enough. Sohala, I'm having a hard time deciphering your post...was that a 30 you rolled? These things have been buffed signifigantly. Then again they aren't just Vrocks...they are -chimera- Vrocks. VERY Warhammer Fantasy if you ask me. Like Greater Daemons of Tzeentch...
The thing is...Marc at it's best is rolling with a +15 to hit. He can then do a max of 4d6+15+6d6 or so. I have a couple other options, like blowing them away and doing my regular 6d6 with tempest breath, or I can entngle them for half damage. What I am getting at is these things are very tough and I'm not sure how best to tactically address the situation. Any thoughts on what we can do to pull this one through?
My thoughts would be to not split up. Concentrate fire on one at a time. Marc can do flyby attacks (but only doing 6d6 damage. Of electricity (to which they are immune) or fire (which they have resistance of at least 10)... meaning I could probably -eventually- pick them off...but it wouls take SO many rounds that it'ld barely be fun even at a tabletop pace.
So....thoughts?
Yeah, a roll of 30, base after PA + 2 for charging + 8 from roll. Next is 2 rolled damage + 13 base damage + 6 PA damage + 10 from battle leader's charge. Keeping them entangled would lower their off/def a little bit. Meanwhile you could still do regular blasts while the entanglement lasts. |
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« Reply #912 on: March 05, 2011, 03:36:30 PM » |
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Entangles do half damage though, and they only get entanged if they take damage... The residual damage would do nothing as well...
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« Reply #913 on: March 05, 2011, 04:12:13 PM » |
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I dunno then, we are dealing with stuff that has the AC of roughly a CR 17 creature. Go with your best judgement.
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« Reply #914 on: March 05, 2011, 04:14:59 PM » |
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I dunno then, we are dealing with stuff that has the AC of roughly a CR 17 creature. Go with your best judgement.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #915 on: March 05, 2011, 04:46:10 PM » |
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No decisive strikes here unfortunately...
I have an AoE but it's fire, does only 6d6, half if I try to entangle and they only get entangled if they take at least 1 point of damage and only for 1d4 rounds per attack. I'll be averaging 1 point of damage on entangling assuming they only have fire resistance 10, or 11 points if I go for the non entangling. Potentially more or less. Also Marc can't keep taking this kind of damage forever, meaning I have to switch to flyby attacks...and these things can fly faster than Marc...
This is going to be a slow ugly slog...
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« Reply #916 on: March 05, 2011, 04:48:38 PM » |
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What about going bigger and pinning them via grappling?
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #917 on: March 05, 2011, 05:03:43 PM » |
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I can probably do that very well yes.  But only one at a time... |
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« Reply #918 on: March 05, 2011, 06:57:57 PM » |
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I'm away from my books till tomorrow evening, so you'll have to check this one for me, BP, but can Vrock1 truly use his stunning ability even though Mael is included in it and he apparently failed his save against Mael's presence this round?
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« Reply #919 on: March 05, 2011, 06:59:36 PM » |
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I can probably do that very well yes. But only one at a time... Which is about an appropriate task... Let the others worry about the rest. As I said before, this fight might be hard. All things considered, it's been going really well for you guys, so far. I was almost anticipating a round 2 (of the new fight) fiasko, but it hasn't happened. Good. Everybody is still alive, now you only have to stay that way.  But even if some of you die, well... all encounters have a point. You will not have died to a random encounter . I'm away from my books till tomorrow evening, so you'll have to check this one for me, BP, but can Vrock1 truly use his stunning ability even though Mael is included in it and he apparently failed his save against Mael's presence?
I've thought about that one. Well... area effects are not mentioned, and basically assumed to be included. As it is, I nevertheless took the liberty of assuming intentional targetting to be the main focus of the feat. Also, the creature is blinded, and hence cannot even see where Mael really is. It's a gray area, I guess. Probably if it weren't blinded I would not have let it take that action, but its an act of frustration of a blinded creature - and basically untargetted, since it affects all non-demons in the vicinity. If it had known that Mael was the only possible target there, it would not have been able to do it. But he wasn't, so... I'm picking an interpretation. |
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