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« Reply #340 on: May 20, 2010, 08:29:00 PM »

Q72. What is spellcasting considered?

Extraordinary? Supernatural? Spell-Like-Ability? None of them?

I'm awakening some Dragon Zombies and think it would be userful, if it gets acces to it.
It is extraordinary due to there only being for classes of abilities, natural, extraordinary, supernatural and spell like, as spell casting is not a supernatural ability or spell like due to its very nature and it is not a natural ability like claws or a fly speed. There is extra support for this in the MMV where spell casting in some of the goblins in that book are listed as extraordinary abilities. 
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« Reply #341 on: May 20, 2010, 09:23:39 PM »

Q73: What book is the feat Improved Control Shape from?  I know it's a Forgotten Realms book, but I can't recall which one.  I know it deals with Lycanthropes.
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« Reply #342 on: May 20, 2010, 10:24:09 PM »

Q73: What book is the feat Improved Control Shape from?  I know it's a Forgotten Realms book, but I can't recall which one.  I know it deals with Lycanthropes.
It is supposedly supposed to be in MM -- either on pg.178 or hidden somewhere in the control shape skill description (and despite my best efforts and 3 re-reads, I am unable to see it anywhere).  I suspect that the possibility exists that it might have been in the 3.0 MM, but I don't really have any way to verify that.

I did find it HERE; but again, it references a non-existent source.  Besides, it doesn't actually look like it does anything (it actually looks like a hindrance) -- it requires you to be a natural lycanthrope, and then lists control shape DCs (the problem being that natural lycanthropes have automatic full control of their shape to begin with).  If you're an afflicted, then just take the skill ranks.
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« Reply #343 on: May 20, 2010, 10:35:34 PM »

Q73: What book is the feat Improved Control Shape from?  I know it's a Forgotten Realms book, but I can't recall which one.  I know it deals with Lycanthropes.

Control Shape is a skill in MM pg 303.

Improved Control Shape is supposedly in the MM 3.0?
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« Reply #344 on: May 20, 2010, 10:40:21 PM »

I knew exactly where the skill was, but I was looking at taking Lycanthropic Spell for a natural lycanthrope and it has "Improved Control Shape feat or Control Shape 8 ranks" as prerequisites.  I saw no reason to absolutely waste skill points, but it looks like a better move than absolutely hurting myself with a feat.
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« Reply #345 on: May 20, 2010, 10:57:09 PM »

Might you be better off just grabbing Surrogate Spellcasting from Savage Species?
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« Reply #346 on: May 20, 2010, 11:09:59 PM »

After doing some more research, it appears that it was indeed a 3.0 MM feat (check "templates").  Natural lycanthropes got the feat for free.  Since natural lycanthropy in 3.5 has changed in such a way as to make that feat unnecessary, I would say that the "lycanthropy spell" feat prereqs need to be updated to reflect that change (as that feat is from a 3.0 source as well).

Also, remember that afflicted lycanthropes are the only ones that use "control shape", since natural ones don't need a check (they just automatically do it).  Additionally, "improved control shape" was only available to natural lycanthropes -- and they got it automatically for free.  (which leads me to believe that the specific verbiage of the "lycanthropy spell" feat prereqs was to explicate that you need to be either a natural or afflicted lycanthrope; but a lycanthrope nonetheless -- and to make sure that afflicteds actually spent some ranks in their new skill).

Solution -- remove "improved control shape" from the prereqs, and still require the ranks for afflicted lycanthropes (which would be keeping in proper form for 3.0-to-3.5 conversion).
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« Reply #347 on: May 21, 2010, 12:00:11 AM »

Q74: Can you get Search on the skill list for Barbarians?
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« Reply #348 on: May 21, 2010, 12:03:01 AM »

Q74: Can you get Search on the skill list for Barbarians?
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« Reply #349 on: May 21, 2010, 12:10:41 AM »

Sorry, should have mentioned that. Race is Razorclaw Shifter
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« Reply #350 on: May 21, 2010, 01:00:53 AM »

Sorry, should have mentioned that. Race is Razorclaw Shifter
In that case it'd depend on you DM. There's a feat in UA that could work for you called Skill Knowledge. There's also the Versatile feat and Skill Prodigy, but they're from third parties with the D&D license and logo (AEG Rokugan and Kalamar).
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« Reply #351 on: May 21, 2010, 01:42:17 AM »

Q75: "Because of this empathic link, the master has the same connection to an item or place that his familiar does."

Is there any reason to believe that I can't use this to cast a spell requiring a component/focus that my familiar can reach and I can't?
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« Reply #352 on: May 21, 2010, 01:54:04 AM »

A75: Seems to work. Even better, use it like you would an Acorn of Far Travel. Cast Ice Shield at x10 Duration, cast Ice Castle ANYWHERE, etc.
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« Reply #353 on: May 21, 2010, 01:54:21 AM »

Q74: Can you get Search on the skill list for Barbarians?

There is an alternate class feature that lets barbarians use survival to locate traps.  What do you want search for, exactly?  
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« Reply #354 on: May 21, 2010, 07:41:29 AM »

Q75: "Because of this empathic link, the master has the same connection to an item or place that his familiar does."

Is there any reason to believe that I can't use this to cast a spell requiring a component/focus that my familiar can reach and I can't?
Wow... I can't believe I've never heard of it used like that before... Nice find!
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« Reply #355 on: May 21, 2010, 07:48:47 AM »

Q75: "Because of this empathic link, the master has the same connection to an item or place that his familiar does."

Is there any reason to believe that I can't use this to cast a spell requiring a component/focus that my familiar can reach and I can't?
Wow... I can't believe I've never heard of it used like that before... Nice find!
shame you can't give your familiar the item familiar feat....


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« Reply #356 on: May 21, 2010, 08:28:05 AM »

Q75: "Because of this empathic link, the master has the same connection to an item or place that his familiar does."

Is there any reason to believe that I can't use this to cast a spell requiring a component/focus that my familiar can reach and I can't?
Wow... I can't believe I've never heard of it used like that before... Nice find!
Hathrans can now use all their magic awesome, anywhere, all the time...

Wow.

I can just see some evil troupe questing to find a Hathran's familiar, just so they (or the person who hired them) negate several of the Hathran's abilities, in order to attack her.

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The master has an empathic link with his familiar out to a distance of up to 1 mile. The master cannot see through the familiar’s eyes, but they can communicate empathically. Because of the limited nature of the link, only general emotional content can be communicated.

Because of this empathic link, the master has the same connection to an item or place that his familiar does.

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« Reply #357 on: May 21, 2010, 09:09:56 AM »

Q76: Will this work: Alter Self into an ancestral dwarf to get +18 NA. Persist it with metamagic effect. Cast Scintillating Scales to get +18 deflection bonus. Persist it. Polymorph in whatever has a nice + NA, persist. Does the deflection bonus stay?
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« Reply #358 on: May 21, 2010, 09:14:46 AM »

Q76: Will this work: Alter Self into an ancestral dwarf to get +18 NA. Persist it with metamagic effect. Cast Scintillating Scales to get +18 deflection bonus. Persist it. Polymorph in whatever has a nice + NA, persist. Does the deflection bonus stay?
yes, the deflection bonus will stay. but what exactly, the deflection bonus is depends on the wording on the scintillating scales spell. most likely, you will get the new form's nat AC as a deflection bonus. otherwise, you will get no deflection bonus(polymorph overwrites alter self).  in the case that scintillating scales grants a bonus that remains static for the duration based upon the nat armor bonus at the time of casting, you would get both.
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« Reply #359 on: May 21, 2010, 09:21:01 AM »

Q75: "Because of this empathic link, the master has the same connection to an item or place that his familiar does."

Is there any reason to believe that I can't use this to cast a spell requiring a component/focus that my familiar can reach and I can't?
Wow... I can't believe I've never heard of it used like that before... Nice find!
Hathrans can now use all their magic awesome, anywhere, all the time...

Wow.

I can just see some evil troupe questing to find a Hathran's familiar, just so they (or the person who hired them) negate several of the Hathran's abilities, in order to attack her.

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The master has an empathic link with his familiar out to a distance of up to 1 mile. The master cannot see through the familiar’s eyes, but they can communicate empathically. Because of the limited nature of the link, only general emotional content can be communicated.

Because of this empathic link, the master has the same connection to an item or place that his familiar does.

Darn it!
Ah, yeah that limiter would apply. It's still very nice. You could leave your familiar inside your spell component pouch, which is inside your backpack/under your armor/etc, and not worry about it ever being sundered again! You also wouldn't have to worry about digging out components during a grapple, if your familiar can reach them.
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