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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2010, 03:44:27 PM » |
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It would probably be easier if a lot of these guys were Gestalt'd, at least partially.
H v ny id s fo c rt n s m n ? M yb w rs p r? I'm sorry, I forgot my marspeak dictionary at home.
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My workDeviantArtCurrent gamesThe tier system in a nutshell: Tier 6: A cartographer. Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman. Tier 4: An expert marksman. Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left. Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy. Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2010, 05:23:59 PM » |
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*turns the Arakune speak option on*  H rd o e l. O e h ve ne r been m s eci l y. |
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2010, 07:04:14 PM » |
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It would probably be easier if a lot of these guys were Gestalt'd, at least partially.
H v ny id s fo c rt n s m n ? M yb w rs p r? I'm sorry, I forgot my marspeak dictionary at home.
a e a ea r a e ai o eo e a e a ha eHave any ideas for c?rt?n?s?m?n?? Maybe warshaper? Not enough cues to make anything out of the second line. |
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2010, 07:41:34 PM » |
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It would probably be easier if a lot of these guys were Gestalt'd, at least partially.
H v ny id s fo c rt n s m n ? M yb w rs p r? I'm sorry, I forgot my marspeak dictionary at home.
a e a ea r a e ai o eo e a e a ha eimg:http://pressthepsbutton.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/arakune1.jpg Have any ideas for c?rt?n?s?m?n?? Maybe warshaper? Not enough cues to make anything out of the second line. The second line is just the missing letters form the first Have any ideas for a certain someone? Maybe warshaper? |
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2010, 10:13:48 PM » |
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*facepalm*
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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Kuroimaken
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2010, 10:04:45 AM » |
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In all seriousness, Arakune's definitely an ooze. I don't know the first thing about optimizing them though.
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Prime32
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2010, 10:59:27 AM » |
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There are a few PrCs which turn you into oozes and swarms, right? At least one is in the BoVD, then there's stuff like Thrall of Jubilex from Dragon.
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2010, 08:59:19 PM » |
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I'm thinking psychic warrior for Ragna, maybe some Tome material like Boneblade Reaper or Death Knight, or giving him access to the Death and/or Voracity Spheres (levels in a Fiend class seem rather appropriate). |
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My workDeviantArtCurrent gamesThe tier system in a nutshell: Tier 6: A cartographer. Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman. Tier 4: An expert marksman. Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left. Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy. Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2010, 09:01:05 PM » |
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He definitely needs something with puny HP, soul-sucking and ridiculous speed.  |
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« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2010, 09:03:33 PM » |
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And don't forget the symbionts. LOTS of them. Especially Tentacle whip |
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« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2010, 09:07:40 PM » |
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Best match I can think of for Blood Kain is frenzied berserker, but that seems too powerful and too long. Any "vicious surge" weapons or spells out there? EDIT: Or hellfire warlock maybe, without binding Naberius. He definitely needs something with puny HP, soul-sucking and ridiculous speed. True Fiend 8/Rogue 11/Death Knight 1? Using the variant which trades sneak attack for bonus feats. |
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« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2010, 11:26:38 PM » |
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Hellfire warlock doesn't really cut it, unless we rule it to apply to Eldritch Glaive only, or something like that. He doesn't actually get weaker from using dark flame powers, he just doesn't have that much HP to begin with, and only gets to absorb some with a particular brand that tends to leave him open.
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« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2010, 11:33:14 PM » |
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There's a spell in PH2 that acts like Rage, but deals Fire damage to you every round it is active. Also, a piece of a Magic Item set has a similar effect. Those may be a bit more fitting for Blood Kain (coupled with Crusader, he'll be healing a little and taking a little).
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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2010, 12:05:27 AM » |
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There's a spell in PH2 that acts like Rage, but deals Fire damage to you every round it is active. Also, a piece of a Magic Item set has a similar effect. Those may be a bit more fitting for Blood Kain (coupled with Crusader, he'll be healing a little and taking a little).
That works, though Crusader probably gives him too much HP, unless we're talking about dips here. |
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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2010, 04:32:21 AM » |
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If he has only one move which heals him (but it heals him quite a bit) then maybe some levels in warblade with Martial Study to pick up a Devoted Spirit manouver.
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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2010, 09:41:35 AM » |
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Still too much HP. Ragna is made of fucking glass. |
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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2010, 12:17:08 PM » |
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My workDeviantArtCurrent gamesThe tier system in a nutshell: Tier 6: A cartographer. Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman. Tier 4: An expert marksman. Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left. Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy. Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2010, 12:47:50 PM » |
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Nice catch.
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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2010, 09:28:42 PM » |
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A Flaw does the same thing. Both of them on a Duskblade or similar medium HD class (with a decent Con score so it can actually do stuff without being gutted in one turn) would be an accurate representation. |
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« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2010, 09:39:58 PM » |
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Still too much HP. Ragna is made of fucking glass. No he's not.... Carl and Nu/Lambda are much weaker  Except the fact that everyone is made of glass against Tager....... and I think we needed to find a way to make Raggy take damage while using a Vampiric Torc (MIC) for Blood Kain.... and Carnage Scissors might be an Ubercharge done by using the same torc gain.... And he possesses IUS and Snap Kick as well |
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