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« Reply #840 on: May 07, 2010, 11:26:23 PM » |
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Knockback is based on the damage dealt. Doesn't matter how, just that it is dealt. So yes.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
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« Reply #841 on: May 07, 2010, 11:49:44 PM » |
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Now why would I think that? It CLEARLY stats STR 13. Which means that you're minimum is 13, but you can have it any higher.
So, you agree that numbers given in prerequisites are minimums and that, by extension, “paladin level 1st” in a prerequisite means a minimum of 1 level in paladin? But what if I was? I wouldn't be the first DM to go "Oh, but it doesn't say 13+ so therefore..." I've dealt with them before.
If you did believe a character with strength 14 doesn't qualify for power attack, I would have altered my approach to this discussion. It was a slim chance, but I felt it worthwhile to address the possibility. And no, if it says you have to take it at first, you take it at 1st. Unless you house rule it. Hence why it says "1st level only". And that's what you get used to seeing. You see class 1st, and "1st level only" enough times, it automatically makes your brain think "This must be one of those feats too".
I don't follow this. Are you saying you inadvertently added an extra restriction in your mind when you read the feat because you expected it, or is this some sort of argument that the limitation is real? |
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« Reply #842 on: May 07, 2010, 11:51:41 PM » |
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Knockback is based on the damage dealt. Doesn't matter how, just that it is dealt. So yes.
.... aren't you talking about the Knock Down feat? I am talking about that feat in Races of the Stone... If you meant that one, then ignore this... |
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« Reply #843 on: May 07, 2010, 11:53:13 PM » |
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Are you saying you inadvertently added an extra restriction in your mind when you read the feat because you expected it, or is this some sort of argument that the limitation is real? Yup, pretty much. It's one of those things where you've gotten so used to it after so long that it's an automatic thought process. |
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« Reply #844 on: May 08, 2010, 12:19:46 AM » |
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192b:How would you recommend restraining a dragon?
Some dragons have alternate form, so they can shrink out of any chains. If the DM gives the dragon eschew materials, silent spell, and still spell, you've got further issues. Stilled gaseous form may be the lowest level way out of normal bonds. A prison made of walls of force filled with an antimagic field would probably work. |
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« Reply #845 on: May 08, 2010, 12:26:28 AM » |
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Q194? If I have a Dungeon Crasher using Leap Attack, does the Leap attack's bonus to Power Attack stack for Knockback purposes (so I could have something like PAx4 on a bull rush)?
RAW, the bonus from knockback is defined solely in terms of your penalty from power attack and leap attack does not alter the penalty from power attack or say that it alters the function of knockback, so no. Since the bonus from knockback is identical to the normal bonus damage from power attack, I could see a DM applying the multiplier from leap attack, but that would be a house rule. |
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« Reply #846 on: May 08, 2010, 12:52:52 AM » |
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192b:How would you recommend restraining a dragon?
Some dragons have alternate form, so they can shrink out of any chains. If the DM gives the dragon eschew materials, silent spell, and still spell, you've got further issues. Stilled gaseous form may be the lowest level way out of normal bonds. A prison made of walls of force filled with an antimagic field would probably work. Unless its a force dragon... |
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« Reply #847 on: May 08, 2010, 10:03:43 AM » |
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192b:How would you recommend restraining a dragon?
Some dragons have alternate form, so they can shrink out of any chains. If the DM gives the dragon eschew materials, silent spell, and still spell, you've got further issues. Stilled gaseous form may be the lowest level way out of normal bonds. A prison made of walls of force filled with an antimagic field would probably work. Unless its a force dragon... There's magical chains somewhere, in a FR book I think, that are specially designed to hold dragons, even when they shift forms or go gaseous or the like. Barring that, a metric ton of adamantine chains to jack the DC sky high, and an antimagic field will take care of the rest. Can't breath weapon them apart, then. |
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #848 on: May 08, 2010, 10:19:14 AM » |
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192b:How would you recommend restraining a dragon?
Some dragons have alternate form, so they can shrink out of any chains. If the DM gives the dragon eschew materials, silent spell, and still spell, you've got further issues. Stilled gaseous form may be the lowest level way out of normal bonds. A prison made of walls of force filled with an antimagic field would probably work. Unless its a force dragon... There's magical chains somewhere, in a FR book I think, that are specially designed to hold dragons, even when they shift forms or go gaseous or the like. Barring that, a metric ton of adamantine chains to jack the DC sky high, and an antimagic field will take care of the rest. Can't breath weapon them apart, then. use riverine. even if they are immune to the force part, the 15k psi water pressure should hold them. |
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« Reply #849 on: May 08, 2010, 10:34:53 AM » |
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Knockback is based on the damage dealt. Doesn't matter how, just that it is dealt. So yes.
.... aren't you talking about the Knock Down feat? I am talking about that feat in Races of the Stone... If you meant that one, then ignore this... Knockback is based on Power Attack amount, not damage. So there's a good chance you're not talking about the same feat. |
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« Reply #850 on: May 08, 2010, 10:42:22 AM » |
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Knockback is based on the damage dealt. Doesn't matter how, just that it is dealt. So yes.
.... aren't you talking about the Knock Down feat? I am talking about that feat in Races of the Stone... If you meant that one, then ignore this... Knockback is based on Power Attack amount, not damage. So there's a good chance you're not talking about the same feat. So I was. Knockback still allows you to double the number if you are wielding a two-handed weapon, so you've a pretty good case for extrapolation to any DM. RAW: no. RaI: Maybe? |
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #851 on: May 08, 2010, 05:11:53 PM » |
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Question 195
What is the caster level for the magical abilities within legacy items? Primarily asking concerning the Scorching Ray ability which allows for two rays to be fired per round at will.
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« Reply #852 on: May 08, 2010, 05:36:46 PM » |
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Question 195
What is the caster level for the magical abilities within legacy items? Primarily asking concerning the Scorching Ray ability which allows for two rays to be fired per round at will.
The caster level for Legacy items is based on which menu you pull from for the ability. Scorching Ray is from Menu C, so it has a CL of 10th. |
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« Reply #853 on: May 08, 2010, 11:37:24 PM » |
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Knockback is based on the damage dealt. Doesn't matter how, just that it is dealt. So yes.
.... aren't you talking about the Knock Down feat? I am talking about that feat in Races of the Stone... If you meant that one, then ignore this... Knockback is based on Power Attack amount, not damage. So there's a good chance you're not talking about the same feat. So I was. .... I always meant the one in Races of Stone, used for bull rushes... Very well.... this will make my friend playing a dungeon crasher sad  |
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« Reply #854 on: May 09, 2010, 01:20:40 AM » |
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Knockback is based on the damage dealt. Doesn't matter how, just that it is dealt. So yes.
.... aren't you talking about the Knock Down feat? I am talking about that feat in Races of the Stone... If you meant that one, then ignore this... Knockback is based on Power Attack amount, not damage. So there's a good chance you're not talking about the same feat. So I was. .... I always meant the one in Races of Stone, used for bull rushes... Very well.... this will make my friend playing a dungeon crasher sad How so? Knockback is a neat feat for a Dungeoncrasher. |
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« Reply #855 on: May 09, 2010, 01:31:58 AM » |
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Especially since you can get up to a +40 if you wield a two-handed weapon anyway. Ohnoes you don't, RAW, get a +1200 to your strength check to move someone.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #856 on: May 09, 2010, 01:33:06 AM » |
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Knockback is based on the damage dealt. Doesn't matter how, just that it is dealt. So yes.
.... aren't you talking about the Knock Down feat? I am talking about that feat in Races of the Stone... If you meant that one, then ignore this... Knockback is based on Power Attack amount, not damage. So there's a good chance you're not talking about the same feat. So I was. .... I always meant the one in Races of Stone, used for bull rushes... Very well.... this will make my friend playing a dungeon crasher sad How so? Knockback is a neat feat for a Dungeoncrasher. The guy's thoughts: Especially since you can get up to a +40 if you wield a two-handed weapon anyway. Ohnoes you don't, RAW, get a +1200 to your strength check to move someone.
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« Reply #857 on: May 09, 2010, 06:19:09 AM » |
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Q196: Wasn't there a spell that would allow to cast touch spells at a range? Something that would allow using touch-range buffs with chain spell, without reach spell. Something like archmage's arcane reach. Or other ways, if not a spell. Not war weaver though, best if it is something usable for a druid.
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« Reply #858 on: May 09, 2010, 06:32:09 AM » |
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Spectral hand does, but I don't think that's what you were looking for.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #859 on: May 09, 2010, 11:56:42 AM » |
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Q196: Wasn't there a spell that would allow to cast touch spells at a range? Something that would allow using touch-range buffs with chain spell, without reach spell. Something like archmage's arcane reach. Or other ways, if not a spell. Not war weaver though, best if it is something usable for a druid.
Occular spell? I do not think you can chain that though, although with a magic item from LoM, a magic lens, you could turn the effect into a cone. |
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