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« Reply #260 on: April 23, 2010, 12:52:18 PM » |
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1 level in Swordsage at level 5 then take Martial Stance feat at level 6 to gain 2d6 of Sneak? Or at level 5 take Swordsage and buy the wondrous item of Assassin's Stance?
Assassin's Stance requires an IL of 5. Even going Sneak Attack classes 4/Swordsage 2 only gives him an IL of 4 by 6th level. D'oh! Should've realized there was a reason no one suggested that yet. I don't suppose an LA would change that? |
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« Reply #261 on: April 23, 2010, 12:54:02 PM » |
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Racial HD? Yes. LA? No.
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« Reply #262 on: April 23, 2010, 01:01:59 PM » |
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Racial HD? Yes. LA? No.
Any other way to pump it the needed 1? |
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« Reply #263 on: April 23, 2010, 01:46:36 PM » |
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Racial HD? Yes. LA? No.
Any other way to pump it the needed 1? Not within 6 levels. Does it have to be Sneak Attack? or would Sudden Strike suffice? That's the only way you're going to get it, I think. Q 60: Arctic Haze (Frostburn) and Haboob (Sandstorm) are almost identical. Is there any good reason one does 5d4 damage, and the other only 4 damage? |
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« Reply #264 on: April 23, 2010, 01:50:59 PM » |
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Q 60: Arctic Haze (Frostburn) and Haboob (Sandstorm) are almost identical. Is there any good reason one does 5d4 damage, and the other only 4 damage?
since when was wizards consistent? |
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« Reply #265 on: April 23, 2010, 02:14:52 PM » |
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1 level in Swordsage at level 5 then take Martial Stance feat at level 6 to gain 2d6 of Sneak? Or at level 5 take Swordsage and buy the wondrous item of Assassin's Stance?
Assassin's Stance requires an IL of 5. Even going Sneak Attack classes 4/Swordsage 2 only gives him an IL of 4 by 6th level. D'oh! Should've realized there was a reason no one suggested that yet. If you don't mind some delayed gratification, you can take that Swordsage level at 5 and then take Martial Stance (Assassin's Stance) at level 9. |
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« Reply #266 on: April 23, 2010, 02:18:52 PM » |
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Racial HD? Yes. LA? No.
Any other way to pump it the needed 1? Not within 6 levels. Does it have to be Sneak Attack? or would Sudden Strike suffice? That's the only way you're going to get it, I think. Yeah, if it can be Sudden Strike, dip Binder 1 and take Improved Binding feat for Malphas. That gets you 1d6 sudden strike, invisibility, poison use, and birds eye viewing. |
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« Reply #267 on: April 23, 2010, 03:41:22 PM » |
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1 level in Swordsage at level 5 then take Martial Stance feat at level 6 to gain 2d6 of Sneak? Or at level 5 take Swordsage and buy the wondrous item of Assassin's Stance?
Gotta correct you on that one, actually. Stances are NOT maneuvers - they just count as maneuvers for prerequisites, but you can't get them with Martial Study, Items or through any other means other than Class Granted Stances or Martial Stance (Feat). |
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« Reply #268 on: April 23, 2010, 03:43:54 PM » |
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Q 60: Arctic Haze (Frostburn) and Haboob (Sandstorm) are almost identical. Is there any good reason one does 5d4 damage, and the other only 4 damage?
A60Drunken Idiot Monkeys designing games at WoTC again .... both should probably read " 5d4" ... either Editing or DIM at the wheel ... you decide  |
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« Reply #269 on: April 23, 2010, 03:45:18 PM » |
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Q61 Besides Legacy Champion, are there any PrCs that advance class features?
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« Reply #270 on: April 23, 2010, 03:47:10 PM » |
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Q61 Besides Legacy Champion, are there any PrCs that advance class features?
Uncanny Trickster (?) in Complete Scoundrel does, too. |
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« Reply #271 on: April 23, 2010, 04:15:38 PM » |
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If it doesn't have to be strictly sneak attack, dip iaijutsu factotum 1 level in Swordsage at level 5 then take Martial Stance feat at level 6 to gain 2d6 of Sneak? Or at level 5 take Swordsage and buy the wondrous item of Assassin's Stance?
Gotta correct you on that one, actually. Stances are NOT maneuvers - they just count as maneuvers for prerequisites, but you can't get them with Martial Study, Items or through any other means other than Class Granted Stances or Martial Stance (Feat). They're totally maneuvers. They're listed as such. Stance: A stance is a special type of maneuver |
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« Reply #272 on: April 23, 2010, 04:20:43 PM » |
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The ToB "FAQ" in the guide says different, and I tend to agree. Were they maneuvers for all intents and purposes, a Warblade could have 4 Stances at level 1.
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« Reply #273 on: April 23, 2010, 04:27:43 PM » |
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The ToB "FAQ" in the guide says different, and I tend to agree. Were they maneuvers for all intents and purposes, a Warblade could have 4 Stances at level 1.
Especially since ToB specifically states they are not maneuvers, cannot be swapped at every even level like maneuvers, but count for manuever number known prereqs, only. |
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Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
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« Reply #274 on: April 23, 2010, 04:28:55 PM » |
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Q62: Is there a list of alt class features somewhere I've missed?
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« Reply #275 on: April 23, 2010, 04:32:04 PM » |
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
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« Reply #276 on: April 23, 2010, 04:46:30 PM » |
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Q 63: Assuming you've got at least 3 additional HD from race or other classes, is there any way to qualify for Hellfire Warlock except for 6 levels of Warlock?
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« Reply #277 on: April 23, 2010, 04:54:52 PM » |
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Q 63: Assuming you've got at least 3 additional HD from race or other classes, is there any way to qualify for Hellfire Warlock except for 6 levels of Warlock? 4 levels in Warlock + 3 levels in Demonbinder? Buying the Codex Advocare (?) from Expedition to Castle Ravenloft can reduce Warlock levels further, I guess, and so can going for some Dragonfire Adept (although I don't suggest that last one). Some other PrCs are also an option. If going with a few levels in Demonbinder, be sure to get Mindsight! |
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« Reply #278 on: April 23, 2010, 04:56:49 PM » |
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Q61 Besides Legacy Champion, are there any PrCs that advance class features?
Uncanny Trickster (?) in Complete Scoundrel does, too. Hmm...any others? |
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« Reply #279 on: April 23, 2010, 05:00:51 PM » |
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Q 63: Assuming you've got at least 3 additional HD from race or other classes, is there any way to qualify for Hellfire Warlock except for 6 levels of Warlock? 4 levels in Warlock + 3 levels in Demonbinder? Buying the Codex Advocare (?) from Expedition to Castle Ravenloft can reduce Warlock levels further, I guess, and so can going for some Dragonfire Adept (although I don't suggest that last one). Some other PrCs are also an option. If going with a few levels in Demonbinder, be sure to get Mindsight! Remind me what book Demonbinder is in? Oh, that's the Drow only one.... which unfortunately doesn't help. |
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