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« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2010, 04:12:36 PM »

Wait a sec. The way you're talking makes it sound as though there are rules for actually running a Fate game...
Naw, he's just imitating the jargon the game itself uses. Seriously, the Noble Pahntasm descriptions in-game read like that. For example, Enuma Elish does 20xSTR damage, with MGI added at random. Normal max damage is 4,000, but it can be further increased with support from other NPs.

Aw, shame! I was thinking of adding Thialfi to the mix.

Who?

Also, see my last post. There are some good rules for running FSN campaigns in Mutants & Masterminds.
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« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2010, 09:18:45 AM »

Berserker
Identity: Krampus
Strength A (B)
Mana D
Endurance B (C)
Agility B (C)
Luck E

Noble Phantasms
Krampen (Anti-Unit, C++)
Butte (Support, D+)

Skills
Battle Continuation: B
Mad Enhancement: C
Mental Pollution: B
Monstrous Strength: A

Krampen: Krampus's namesake, the Krampen is simply a claw. When activated, it has an effect similar to Prana Burst, allowing Berserker to expend mana to increase the attack's power drastically. When combined with the Monstrous Strength ability and a high prana input, it can even reach the level of A-rank Noble Phantasms. Unfortunately for Berserker, his magical energy is low, so he needs to rely on his Master to supply the necessary energy.

Butte: The Butte is a woven basket worn on Berserker's back. Mythologically, it was used to kidnap bad children. As a Noble Phantasm, any living being put in it will be left in a state of suspended animation, making it effective in abducting people. However, due to Mad Enhancement, Berserker can't use it without his Master's specific directions.

Overall, Krampus is a relatively weak Servant (compared to the 4th and 5th war's Servants, anyway), as he isn't very strong in folklore, nor exactly well-known outside of the alps. However, in the hands of a strong master with little scruples about letting him murder bystanders for mana or taking hostages, he should be a force to be reckoned with.
Of course, with his Luck score he might well land a nobody like Shinji as a Master, in which case he's basically screwed.
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« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2010, 09:24:47 AM »

Yay Santa Claus! Big Grin
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« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2010, 09:27:41 AM »

Yay Santa Claus! Big Grin
Well, close. Around here, Saint Nick comes on the 6th of December and mostly brings fruits, nuts, and chocolate. On the 24th, the presents are brought by the Christkind (literally, the Christ child or the child of Christ).

That's right, we get our christmas presents from Jesus himself. Fuck Santa.

Another reason Krampus would be an awesome berserker: He wears bells and chains, so you would hear him coming and have plenty of time to piss yourself while thinking "shit, what do I do now?"
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« Reply #64 on: April 24, 2010, 09:13:57 AM »

Assassin
Identity: Margaretha MacLeod
Strength E
Mana D
Endurance E
Agility D
Luck C

Noble Phantasms
Mata Hari, Brilliant Eye of the Noonday Sun (Anti-Unit/Support, C+)

Skills
Disengage: D
Eye for Art: A+ - Simply because I have no idea what this would do at that rank.
Golden Rule: C
Phasing Movement: C
Presence Concealment: A

Mata Hari: Assassin can seduce any victim with a glance of her eyes. This is similar to the Mystic Eyes ability, but as her Noble Phantasm, it has been elevated to a completely different level.

Obligatory 'different level' joke.

So, let's see the non-fictional servants I've got.

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Archer
Assassin Mata Hari
Berserker Krampus
Caster
Lancer
Rider
Saber Brynhildr

Archer will end up being either Atalanta or Egil/William Tell (they're basically the same, except one's an honest-to-goodness mythological hero and the other's a folk hero). For Lancer, I'm thinking Vlad the Impaler, whose NP would be stakes rising from the ground. Rawr. Rider could be Sita (eh) or another Valkyrie - or perhaps Daedalus (the wings count, right?). Not sure on Caster - Merlin is too obvious; perhaps some Rakshasa from Indian mythology.
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« Reply #65 on: April 24, 2010, 09:31:34 AM »

Mata Hari needs "phasing through objects" powers.
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« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2010, 10:16:34 AM »

Wait a sec. The way you're talking makes it sound as though there are rules for actually running a Fate game...
Naw, he's just imitating the jargon the game itself uses. Seriously, the Noble Pahntasm descriptions in-game read like that. For example, Enuma Elish does 20xSTR damage, with MGI added at random. Normal max damage is 4,000, but it can be further increased with support from other NPs.

Aw, shame! I was thinking of adding Thialfi to the mix.

Who?

Also, see my last post. There are some good rules for running FSN campaigns in Mutants & Masterminds.

Thor's mortal servant. He became the God of Thunder's lackey because of one of Loki's pranks.

It went kinda like this. Loki and Thor were cruising through Midgard. When night fell, they decided to stop by a local peasant family's home. The family was poor, yet overjoyed to see the gods themselves. Then Thor asked for dinner. Being poor, the head of the household informed him there was no way he could cook a feast worthy of him. Thor then requested that a roast be made of the goats that pulled his carriage, and after their initial reluctance, explained that if the bones were gathered beneath the skins, each goat would reform in the morning.

The peasants did as asked. Thor, being the big-hearted guy he was, invited the peasants to eat with them. Loki saw this as an opportunity to pull a fast one, and whispered into the peasant farmer's son's ear, "Suck the marrow out of the bone, it's the most delicious part!".

The day after, when the goats reformed, Thor noticed one of the goats had a lame leg. He got furious, and when Loki noticed his prank went too far, he suggested that instead of smiting, Thor took Thialfi (the farmer's son) in as his servant. And that's how it was done.

Among other things, Thialfi was responsible for negotiating with the dwarves in Svartalfheim for the construction of Gleipnir, with Odin lending him Sleipnir in order to see to the task more quickly.
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« Reply #67 on: April 24, 2010, 02:15:49 PM »

Mata Hari needs "phasing through objects" powers.
Sure, why not. Something like Phasing Movement: C? (C would be passing through walls and stuff, B might include persons and living things, and A could mean hiding in the ground for ghost skirmish tactics.)
Yay, now we're past making up Servants and into making up personal skills. Big Grin
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« Reply #68 on: April 24, 2010, 03:32:54 PM »

Servants can already pass through solid objects.
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« Reply #69 on: April 24, 2010, 03:35:45 PM »

Servants can already pass through solid objects.
Only in ghost form though, right? There might be good utility in being able to do that in corporeal/visible form too.

Also, I sent a PM to AmberVael on MW to ask for readership in her private game, but she hasn't answered after a week or so. Since you seem to have access to the game, mind checking if she hasn't noticed or is just ignoring it? Wink
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« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2010, 02:26:27 PM »

You asked her? Well what was your approach? She's not going to just let random weirdos in.
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« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2010, 02:27:45 PM »

You asked her? Well what was your approach? She's not going to just let random weirdos in.
I asked politely and mentioned I knew you from another forum. From what I've seen on random gitp posts, you seem to be fairly well known, so I figured that would be a good thing to mention. Unless she hates you.
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« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2010, 05:12:52 PM »

So, am I the only one who posts servants here anymore?

Rider
Identity: Jeanne d'Arc
Strength B
Mana C
Endurance A
Agility B
Luck A

Noble Phantasms
Assault of Orleans, Glorious Divine Charge (Anti-Army, B)

Skills
Battle Continuation: B
Charisma: C
Instinct: A+
Magic Resistance: D
Military Tactics: A
Riding: B


Assault of Orleans: Summons an army of riders to charge the enemy. Similar in effect to FSN!Rider's Bellerophon. Help in fleshing this out is appreciated.


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Archer Egil
Assassin Mata Hari
Berserker Krampus
Caster
Lancer Vlad Dracula Tepes
Rider Joan of Arc
Saber Brynhildr
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« Reply #73 on: May 01, 2010, 06:10:31 PM »

Assault of Orleans: Summons an army of riders to charge the enemy. Similar in effect to FSN!Rider's Bellerophon. Help in fleshing this out is appreciated.
Actually, that sounds more like Fate/Zero's Rider.

It has been mentioned in canon that Joan of Arc was a Counter Guardian.


Dracula has the complication that TATARI's default form is based on him.
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« Reply #74 on: May 01, 2010, 06:12:28 PM »

Assault of Orleans: Summons an army of riders to charge the enemy. Similar in effect to FSN!Rider's Bellerophon. Help in fleshing this out is appreciated.
Actually, that sounds more like Fate/Zero's Rider.

It has been mentioned in canon that Joan of Arc was a Counter Guardian.
I have no idea what either of that means because I haven't read F/Z and don't know what a Counter Guardian is. Mind enlightening me?
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« Reply #75 on: May 01, 2010, 06:14:33 PM »

A Counter Guardian is someone like Archer, who made a deal with the planet for power in exchange for becoming part of the "Counter Force" after their death, which protects the planet. It's different from Heroic Spirits, who gained their status through their own fame and reside in the Throne of Heroes.

Saber is also a Counter Guardian, sort of, but her case is weirder since she wasn't dead when she became one, so she's being summoned in person rather than a copy of her archetype, and can thus remember previous summonings. I think her service is deferred until the point she actually gets to use the Grail.


The Rider of F/Z, Alexander the Great, has a Reality Marble which contains his entire army in the form of minor Servants. It's EX-rank.
Don't worry about spoilers for that, few Servants in F/Z bother to hide their identities. (F/Z has Heaven's Feel spoilers right from the beginning though, before you consider reading it)
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« Reply #76 on: May 01, 2010, 06:20:56 PM »

A Counter Guardian is someone like Archer, who made a deal with the planet for power in exchange for becoming part of the "Counter Force" after their death, which protects the planet. It's different from Heroic Spirits, who gained their status through their own fame and reside in the Throne of Heroes.
I see. I thought it might be something like that (the 'Guardian' bit tipped me off), and it does fit the whole divine inspiration and Uber tactics bit. Anyway, it obviously doesn't stand in the way of her becoming a Servant, so I'm fine with it. Big Grin Her wish might be to leave the Force and rest in peace or something like that, then.

Any ideas for the NP? I haven't read F/Z, so I don't want to inadvertedly rip off anything.
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« Reply #77 on: May 01, 2010, 06:24:26 PM »

Made some edits to my last two posts.
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« Reply #78 on: May 01, 2010, 06:37:44 PM »

Dracula has the complication that TATARI's default form is based on him.
Well, looking at just the first paragraph, it seems that it's based on a 'fear' he manifested, rather than necessarily on the real thing (and it seems to me that he's definitely not the real Vlad). Vlad's image outside of Wallachia was notoriously exaggerated by his enemies, and in Wallachia itself he was regarded as a hero (despite the fact that he was, in fact, kind of a dick). Also, this TATARI guy looks more like Bram Stoker's Dracula. The original Dracula had a Badass Mustache and a very Nice Hat.

The Rider of F/Z, Alexander the Great, has a Reality Marble which contains his entire army in the form of minor Servants. It's EX-rank.
Don't worry about spoilers, few Servants in F/Z bother to hide their identities.
Hmm... that would indeed seem something like what I was going for, though I was thinking maybe the knights would be made of energy or something, which is why I compared it to Bellerophon. Again, better ideas are welcome.

Caster could maybe be Vibishana.
Speaking of Indian myth, I have a hunch as to who Holy Revolution's Archer might be.

EDIT: Anyone have more info on Chandrahas, Ravana's sword from hindu myth? I can't find much about it other than that it was supposed to be the strongest sword in the whole mythology.
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« Reply #79 on: May 01, 2010, 09:50:00 PM »

Hmm... that would indeed seem something like what I was going for, though I was thinking maybe the knights would be made of energy or something, which is why I compared it to Bellerophon.
Bellerophon is the bridle, which effectively gives the pegasus Mad Enhancement. The pegasus itself isn't a Noble Phantasm, but its age gives it power rivalling dragons.
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Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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