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« on: April 09, 2010, 02:18:42 PM » |
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There was discussion in the anime thread on variations of Fate/stay night's Holy Grail War (where "Heroic Spirits" from throughout history are summoned into one of seven classes and must fight each other) with different characters. For instance, the power plagiarism set: Archer: Megaman
Assassin: Kakashi Hatake (Naruto)
Berserker: Samus Aran (Metroid Prime 3)
Caster: Sakura Kinomoto (Card Captor Sakura)
Lancer: ?
Rider: Kamen Rider Decade
Saber: Inferno (Soul Calibur) For those of you who don't know what Fate/stay night is, just think of this as The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, but with stat-sheets. Please continue. |
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 02:46:53 PM » |
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Welp, might as well drop my picks in
Archer: Takamachi Nanoha(Nanoha)
Assassin: Nanaya Shiki(Tsukihime)
Berserker: Uzumaki Naruto(Naruto)
Caster: Yuki Nagato(Haruhi)
Lancer: Negi Springfield(Negima)
Rider: Lelouch Lamperough(Code Geass)
Saber: Cloud Strife(Final Fantasy)
No standard theme though, just picking from the anime I know for the best fit.
Anyone figures they can do a good Mecha set?
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 02:48:25 PM » |
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Let's stat some guys up. A Servant's parameters are Strength, Mana, Endurance, Agility and Luck, with ranks from E to A. They also have skills from the following list, which are similarly ranked, but with the addition of pluses and minuses. http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Parameters_and_SkillsFinally, a signature weapon or skill, their "Noble Phantasm", which is "Anti-Unit", "Anti-Army" or "Anti-Fortress" and is ranked like a skill. |
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 02:48:56 PM » |
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Anyone figures they can do a good Mecha set?
Archer: RaideenAssassin: Berserker: Eva-01 or Getter-1Caster: Lelouch Lamperouge Lancer: Getter-2 (a drill counts as a lance, right?) Rider: Escaflowne (turns into a dragon ridden by pilot) or Nirvash (surfs) Saber: DaizengarNormally the pilots would all be Riders, with Kouji Kabuto (pilot of Mazinger Z) being basically Gilgamesh since all giant robots are based on his (except Tetsujin-28, but he had no pilot and noone cares about him) |
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 02:51:13 PM » |
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My revised Touhou set, updated with suggestions from veekie. Archer Yukari Yakumo - NP: Border of Life and Death (Not her final spellcard, but probably her most famous.)
Assassin Sakuya Izayoi - NP: Luna Dial (No, it's not canon. But it's the closest thing she has.)
Berserker Flandre Scarlet - NP: Laevatein
Caster Marisa Kirisame - NP: Hakkero/Master Spark
Lancer Remilia Scarlet - NP: Gungnir
Rider Reimu Hakurei - NP: Yin-Yang Orbs?
Saber Youmu Konpaku - NP: Roukanken I still think Marisa is a good fit, although Patchouli might be fun for making cracks at her Strength and Agility scores. Veekie: Like I said, Nanoha's awesome, but Chise fits better with the two known canon Archers. |
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 02:55:47 PM » |
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^^
I don't know the series, so if it came to statting, I'm outta luck.
Granted, I don't really know Cloud that well either, but hes prevalent enough that the wiki would do.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 03:01:45 PM » |
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^^
I don't know the series, so if it came to statting, I'm outta luck.
Granted, I don't really know Cloud that well either, but hes prevalent enough that the wiki would do.
Well, in canon, everyone but Chise is actually a normal human, and her capabilities, both defensive and offensive, can't really be quantified. She's also never really shot at on-screen, as the show actually has very little action. In most of what's shown, she's practically invulnerable just by virtue of killing anyone that tries to shoot her. Offensive capability is easier, as she Also, in order to appease Kuroimaken, I propose Lucy or Mariko Kurama (Elfen Lied) as alternate Berserkers.  Note that the point of the class isn't just going RAWR, but that they actually go batshit insane. I don't see that working all that well with Naruto. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 03:15:51 PM » |
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Try Kyuubi-mode full out. Anyone figures they can do a good Mecha set?
Archer: RaideenAssassin: Berserker: Eva-01 or Getter-1Caster: Lelouch Lamperouge Lancer: Getter-2 (a drill counts as a lance, right?) Rider: Escaflowne (turns into a dragon ridden by pilot) or Nirvash (surfs) Saber: DaizengarNormally the pilots would all be Riders, with Kouji Kabuto (pilot of Mazinger Z) being basically Gilgamesh since all giant robots are based on his (except Tetsujin-28, but he had no pilot and noone cares about him) Wasn't there this mech from SRW which was basically a sorceror? Dunno the name though. As for Rider, hmm, Real Men Ride Each Other?  |
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 03:18:48 PM » |
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Elzam Ratsel certainly loves his horse, but he's not the one doing the riding there, and Sanger is clearly a Saber. Wasn't there this mech from SRW which was basically a sorceror?
Dunno the name though. The Masoukishin (like Cybuster) contain elemental spirits and are powered by alchemy. Then you have the mechs which are combinations of the Four Gods. Watch in order: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C24Uvp3Gft0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdYcS2z8pkAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2O46dL3dhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSz4HICjpy4 |
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 03:26:16 PM » |
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^^ True, still, it was the most iconic riding thing I recall from SRW My revised Touhou set, updated with suggestions from veekie. Archer Yukari Yakumo - NP: Border of Life and Death (Not her final spellcard, but probably her most famous.)
Assassin Sakuya Izayoi - NP: Luna Dial (No, it's not canon. But it's the closest thing she has.)
Berserker Flandre Scarlet - NP: Laevatein
Caster Marisa Kirisame - NP: Hakkero/Master Spark
Lancer Remilia Scarlet - NP: Gungnir
Rider Reimu Hakurei - NP: Yin-Yang Orbs?
Saber Youmu Konpaku - NP: Roukanken I still think Marisa is a good fit, although Patchouli might be fun for making cracks at her Strength and Agility scores. Well, I favored Patchy because she actually does have the spells expected of a Caster, not to mention shes the original owner of Marisa's second iconic spell card, Non-Directional Laser(Marisa liked the look of it, so she stole it). Marisa would actually be closest to a caster version of Gilgamesh/Archer, with all the treasures she had looted, only she hadn't spent a lot of time gathering them yet. Reimu's iconic would be the Yin-Yang orb, it's her defining artifact since the first game(when it was the ball in some really weird balls vs blocks setup). Most of the Touhou characters would have probably one iconic NP(generally their bomb when used as a PC) and a bunch of lesser ones representing their spell cards. |
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 03:28:25 PM » |
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I guess you've got a point on Patchy. Unfortunately, the only game I've actually played so far is PCB, so I'm not familiar with Yukari's or Youmu's bomb (or Patchouli's, if she was ever playable). So should Sakuya's NP be Killer Doll/Perfect Square? The mecha set needs more TTGL. Probably Gurren-Lagann itself, since it's of a more manageable size. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 03:31:54 PM » |
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Lagann as the Lancer.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2010, 03:32:54 PM » |
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Lagann as the Lancer.
NP: Take over another mech? |
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2010, 03:33:13 PM » |
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Lagann as the Lancer.
NP: Take over another mech? That sounds like "Riding" to me. |
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2010, 03:35:42 PM » |
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Lagann as the Lancer.
NP: Take over another mech? That sounds like "Riding" to me. You drill them in order to ride them. |
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2010, 03:53:57 PM » |
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Alright, Lagann as Rider.
It'd be awesome.
"What do you ride?"
"You"
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010, 04:10:02 PM » |
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So what happens if the cast of Hokuto no Ken gets assigned as Servants?
Which one would Kenshiro be, for example?
I'd be inclined to say Assassin, since striking pressure points might not work as well on spirits. He'd have much better stats than most Assassins though. EDIT: Or maybe the piercing nature of his attacks would qualify him as a Lancer. Heck, you could even claim that his attacks "ride" his opponent's bodies. I dunno if he's ever gone berserk. |
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2010, 04:24:24 PM » |
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He'd make a fine Lancer except he doesn't have a lance, I think.
Assassin would do.
I wonder what other alternative Classes are possible. I mean, we've heard variations are possible right? Otherwise Kotomine wouldn't bother tracking what classes were summoned.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2010, 04:27:52 PM » |
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I wonder what other alternative Classes are possible. I mean, we've heard variations are possible right? Otherwise Kotomine wouldn't bother tracking what classes were summoned.
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