Green Players With Elaborate Backgrounds

[kevin_video]

Okay so she's got an open feat at 1st which she can't take Celestial Bloodline with because clerics don't give Reflex until 3rd. That's when she'll take it. Then outsider wings at 6th. My suggestion was lightning reflexes, but she'd prefer something that represents the tattoo/birthmark she's putting on the character's shoulder. I was thinking of house ruling the Sacred Tattoo feat which requires you to have a patron deity of Mulhorandi or Untheric patheon, but is there anything better?

[Havok4]

Okay so she's got an open feat at 1st which she can't take Celestial Bloodline with because clerics don't give Reflex until 3rd. That's when she'll take it. Then outsider wings at 6th. My suggestion was lightning reflexes, but she'd prefer something that represents the tattoo/birthmark she's putting on the character's shoulder. I was thinking of house ruling the Sacred Tattoo feat which requires you to have a patron deity of Mulhorandi or Untheric patheon, but is there anything better?

Dragonmarks from Eberron, they are very good at representing magic tattoos, or just use a psionic tattoo, which is an item and can be made permanent with a old minds eye article.

[kevin_video]

Okay so she's got an open feat at 1st which she can't take Celestial Bloodline with because clerics don't give Reflex until 3rd. That's when she'll take it. Then outsider wings at 6th. My suggestion was lightning reflexes, but she'd prefer something that represents the tattoo/birthmark she's putting on the character's shoulder. I was thinking of house ruling the Sacred Tattoo feat which requires you to have a patron deity of Mulhorandi or Untheric patheon, but is there anything better?

Dragonmarks from Eberron, they are very good at representing magic tattoos, or just use a psionic tattoo, which is an item and can be made permanent with a old minds eye article.

That was my original suggestion to her actually, and what we were considering, but she wanted to know if there was anything else. She's big into dragons so she might want the dragonmark.

[PhaedrusXY]

Okay so she's got an open feat at 1st which she can't take Celestial Bloodline with because clerics don't give Reflex until 3rd. That's when she'll take it. Then outsider wings at 6th. My suggestion was lightning reflexes, but she'd prefer something that represents the tattoo/birthmark she's putting on the character's shoulder. I was thinking of house ruling the Sacred Tattoo feat which requires you to have a patron deity of Mulhorandi or Untheric patheon, but is there anything better?

Dragonmarks from Eberron, they are very good at representing magic tattoos, or just use a psionic tattoo, which is an item and can be made permanent with a old minds eye article.

If she's big into dragons, she might just want to be a dragonborn for the wings, instead of taking two feats.

I started a thread on the psionic tattoo stuff here: http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4319.0

[Agita]

Okay so she's got an open feat at 1st which she can't take Celestial Bloodline with because clerics don't give Reflex until 3rd. That's when she'll take it. Then outsider wings at 6th. My suggestion was lightning reflexes, but she'd prefer something that represents the tattoo/birthmark she's putting on the character's shoulder. I was thinking of house ruling the Sacred Tattoo feat which requires you to have a patron deity of Mulhorandi or Untheric patheon, but is there anything better?

Dragonmarks from Eberron, they are very good at representing magic tattoos, or just use a psionic tattoo, which is an item and can be made permanent with a old minds eye article.

That was my original suggestion to her actually, and what we were considering, but she wanted to know if there was anything else. She's big into dragons so she might want the dragonmark.

There's a Tatoo Focus feat in some Faerun book (also the DMG, in the PrC section under Red Mage). I'm not sure what it does off-hand, but I think it's basically the same as Spell Focus. Not recommended, Dragonmarks are much more badass.

[kevin_video]

Okay so she's got an open feat at 1st which she can't take Celestial Bloodline with because clerics don't give Reflex until 3rd. That's when she'll take it. Then outsider wings at 6th. My suggestion was lightning reflexes, but she'd prefer something that represents the tattoo/birthmark she's putting on the character's shoulder. I was thinking of house ruling the Sacred Tattoo feat which requires you to have a patron deity of Mulhorandi or Untheric patheon, but is there anything better?

Dragonmarks from Eberron, they are very good at representing magic tattoos, or just use a psionic tattoo, which is an item and can be made permanent with a old minds eye article.

If she's big into dragons, she might just want to be a dragonborn for the wings, instead of taking two feats.

I started a thread on the psionic tattoo stuff here: http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=4319.0

She is big into them, but not big enough to completely change her background story. Maybe next time.

I've read the psionic tattoo stuff and bookmarked it before. I hope to have it on one of my characters someday.

@ Agita -- I noticed that. I think you need Craft and be a 3rd level caster for that one.

[Prime32]

She is big into them, but not big enough to completely change her background story. Maybe next time.

So refluff then. Or you could go raptoran.

[kevin_video]

She is big into them, but not big enough to completely change her background story. Maybe next time.

So refluff then. Or you could go raptoran.

It's all good.

[skydragonknight]

What are her domains? Spell domain can get her the Create Magic Tattoo spell from Spell Compendium with a 3rd level spell slot, which she can cast every day. Just refluff it to use regular ink instead of a costly component or Permanency it.

[kevin_video]

What are her domains? Spell domain can get her the Create Magic Tattoo spell from Spell Compendium with a 3rd level spell slot, which she can cast every day. Just refluff it to use regular ink instead of a costly component or Permanency it.

War and Protection, and it's going to be a while before she gets a 3rd level slot.

[skydragonknight]

Maybe this? Paying someone else, of course.

[kevin_video]

Maybe this?

Maybe. She's only lvl 1. That's something that's not going to be an issue for another good 8 levels. She's definitely considering the dragonmark though.

[EjoThims]

Yea, using Raptoran base refluffed and half-vampire would just about be right, and would be my recomendation.

With only +2 total LA and scaling flight, it's much less harsh than other options and doesn't eat up feats.

Let her buy-off the LA too, since she's a newbie.

[kevin_video]

Need a different kind of help now. Talking to her, we're going with the Lesser Aasimar (I can't believe that just removing the Outsider type makes it a +0 LA and puts it on the same level as a human or any of the core races) and the major Vampire bloodline.

Just two issues. 1) The resistances don't stack. She's already got the cold 5 and electricity 5. Those are useless. They need to be switched out for something else the vampire has. 2) Affinities are crap. You get +2/+4/+6 to your Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Intimidate, and Perform checks when made to interact with vampires. And if you never talk to a vampire (she will, but it's not going to be for a very long time), then you're essentially hooped. Granted you should, but even rangers don't use those bonuses against their favored enemies that much, if any. When's the last time a ranger tried to bluff or gather information from a dire bear? Seriously. Again, a switch out should be in order.

My thoughts were, since she wanted to be a half-vampire, they have fast healing 1. That could go somewhere. That'll replace the cold resistance 5. For the other one, I was thinking of giving her a permanent +1 WIS. Vamps get them anyways. Instead of the Affinity +4, make that the Suggestion 1/day, and put Dominate 1/day in the Suggestion spot. Maybe put the Charm Monster in there somewhere.

[EjoThims]

I'd replace the affinities with the charm line straight down the line, and scaling to at will.

Instead of +2, charm person 3/day. +4 is replaced with charm monster 5/day, Suggestion 1/day is replaced with at will, but with the same restrictions as the vampire's ability. And +6 is replaced with upgrading it to dominate instead of suggestion.

[RobbyPants]

There is a feat that can give an aasimar wings. I'd "suggest" for her to be a half-vampire aasimar with that feat. Explain that her bloodlines are a bit diluted from being mixed three ways (and also the metagame undesirability of playing a caster with a +6 LA). I forget the LA of half-vampire, but I think it is +2. If she actually uses the LA +0 "lesser aasimar", that's all she'll have. Even if she goes with the full-blown aasimar, it will only be +3, which while a bit high is at least tolerable and can be bought off pre-epic.

This is pretty much exactly what I was going to suggest, minus the wing feat, because I didn't know about it.

As a general rule, if someone comes up with an LA +<insert big number here> concept, I do two things:
1) look for a lower LA way to do the same thing thematically, or

2) create my own lower LA way to do so if #1 doesn't work.

[Hallack]

Good you are already doing the UA bloodlines to deal with LA issues.  That is pretty much what jumped into my head in reading the early posts.

[Prime32]

Lesser Aasimar (I can't believe that just removing the Outsider type makes it a +0 LA and puts it on the same level as a human or any of the core races)

The planetouched races are very weak for +1 LA. The Outsider type gets you very powerful forms for alter self, immunity to effects like hold person, darkvision and proficiency in simple and martial weapons, and heavy armour and shields.

See here.

[kevin_video]

Good you are already doing the UA bloodlines to deal with LA issues.  That is pretty much what jumped into my head in reading the early posts.

The only issue now is revising the bloodline because of the affinity and the powers not stacking, but overlapping (ie aasimar cold 5 and electricity 5 being the same as the vampire cold 5 and electricity 5).

@ Prime32 -- Fair enough. Still, when you compare it to a human, it does still seem powerful considering they're the "control" for what all +0 races are based around for power.

[Havok4]

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@ Prime32 -- Fair enough. Still, when you compare it to a human, it does still seem powerful considering they're the "control" for what all +0 races are based around for power.
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Human is still better much of the time due to many builds being very feat hungry, especially at lower level where the human bonus feat gives the biggest benefit.