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« Reply #120 on: April 10, 2010, 12:27:09 AM »

I'm fine with retraining if you want, assuming your Int is 13+.  You don't hugely need Quick Draw anyway until your BAB gets to +6; you can draw as a free action without the feat as part of movement.

As for a MW weapon, it's probably worth it at this point.  +1 to hit is nice, and you need it anyway to get you weapon enchanted later.  I'm not sure I'd worry about MW armor, as ACP will almost never matter in most of these tests.
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It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
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Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
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Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
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« Reply #121 on: April 12, 2010, 10:03:41 AM »

It seems the +1d6 damage at this level is making a big difference.  That's one odd thing that's always been an issue in D&D is how level 1 to 2 is roughly a doubling in power, where as the percentage of growth drops after that point when comparing level by level.  For the most part, the CR 2 monsters haven't had a solid jump in their HP, which means that many fights will probably go quicker in that regard.

About the only real difference I see will be if you get mobbed by a slew of weak things, like the centipede fight last level, where the extra damage is essentially wasted.  Of course, when level 3 and the AoE attacks are available, even these types of fights won't be such a challenge.

In addition to running roughly EL 2 encounters (for a 5-person party), I may have to step it up for a few of them, looking solely at the stats rather than the CR to see what types of fights actually seem to be "level appropriate".  So, if no one has a problem with it, I may mix and match a few fights that are harder than a straight even-level EL fight.
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Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
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I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #122 on: April 12, 2010, 10:09:08 AM »

Yeah that sounds good. I was actually thinking of you just adding 1 or 2 more enemies for an "evenly" matched fight. Because stronger enemies still loose action economy.
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« Reply #123 on: April 12, 2010, 03:22:49 PM »

^^
If they got enough statistical advantage to make us miss that much more ofter though...
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« Reply #124 on: April 13, 2010, 08:02:36 AM »

I mentioned it in encounter 8, but I'll remind you here:
Note: Due to Serias' per encounter healing, assume you're always at full HP at the onset of each encounter unless I tell you otherwise.

It's funny:  I think I rolled up the exact same initiative order as encounter 7 for you guys.  The numbers were different, but the order was the same.
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Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
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« Reply #125 on: April 13, 2010, 02:59:33 PM »

Encounter 8 might be a tedious, foregone conclusion.  I was looking more at their ability to mitigate some of your damage, and totally missed their own crappy damage output.  Oh well...

I think I need to start doing some mixed fights where two types of enemies work well in a group.
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Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #126 on: April 13, 2010, 03:10:22 PM »

just an FYI Aepa can't deal damage to these things. I'm not complaining as i understood this weakness going in. Once it gets to my turn i'll just be flanking and aiding the rest of the crew as best as possible.
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« Reply #127 on: April 13, 2010, 03:13:28 PM »

Aiding/flanking might be a better use of actions, but you can deal damage with your heavy crossbow.  It will just do one less point due to hardness.
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Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #128 on: April 13, 2010, 03:47:44 PM »

What's the speed on these things? I didn't imagine statues moved that fast, but apparently these things can cover ground pretty quick!
How else does Statue 3 make it to L15?
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« Reply #129 on: April 13, 2010, 03:49:26 PM »

^^
Double Move, presumably. It's not really that far

Once the elemental shows up, I'll just Create Water to severely tilt the battlefield.
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It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!

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« Reply #130 on: April 13, 2010, 04:02:37 PM »

^^
Double Move, presumably. It's not really that far

Double move and then attack? Unlikely.
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« Reply #131 on: April 13, 2010, 05:21:03 PM »

^^
Double Move, presumably. It's not really that far

Double move and then attack? Unlikely.
Thought that was how a charge works...
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« Reply #132 on: April 13, 2010, 06:42:18 PM »

40 foot speed.  The legs grant a +10 bonus.  It could charge up to 80.
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Quotes
Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #133 on: April 13, 2010, 07:55:47 PM »

^^
Double Move, presumably. It's not really that far

Double move and then attack? Unlikely.
Thought that was how a charge works...

Well, first he said it moved, while others charged you guys. Second, you can only charge in a straight line, unless you've got some ability to make a change of direction, and there were too many obstacles for it to charge me. Still, I'm not doubting Robby, just trying to figure out what's going on.
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« Reply #134 on: April 13, 2010, 09:11:54 PM »

Just be glad it doesn't have wheels; fucker would be moving at 70 feet per round!
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My balancing 3.5 compendium
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Quotes
Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #135 on: April 13, 2010, 09:14:29 PM »

Can we number the enemies? As long as we keep them color coded we shouldn't get confused on what they are, but who they are is driving me crazy.
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« Reply #136 on: April 13, 2010, 10:08:28 PM »

Sure
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Quotes
Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #137 on: April 13, 2010, 10:19:00 PM »

Thanks.
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« Reply #138 on: April 13, 2010, 10:35:53 PM »

No problem.  I'd actually considered doing that right about the time I posted the first picture.

Oh well.  It's an easy fix.
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My balancing 3.5 compendium
Elemental mage test game

Quotes
Quote from: Cafiend
It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #139 on: April 14, 2010, 11:06:20 AM »

Good thing I bought the scroll, or I'd be bandaiding and nothing else. Big Grin
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It's also a little cold because of that.
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I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!

There is no higher price than 'free'.

"I won't die. I've been ordered not to die."
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