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« Reply #740 on: December 02, 2010, 02:53:55 PM » |
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« Reply #741 on: December 10, 2010, 08:21:35 AM » |
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Whoa, sorry, lost track of that somehow.
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« Reply #742 on: December 10, 2010, 10:57:56 AM » |
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Encounter six seemed harder, although, according to borked CR calculations, wouldn't four CR 1 monsters make an EL 5 encounter? I suppose four elementals that synergized together would be harder than one of each, each doing its own thing.
Still I think I'd be hard-pressed to run you guys against four or five EL 2 encounters and have it truly wear on you. I know having a fifth PC does make CR/EL calculations different, but it seems that I need EL 3+ encounters for it to be meaningful. Of course, this is a group of four casters...
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #743 on: December 11, 2010, 05:58:40 AM » |
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I think pressing the team harder is a better test.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
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RobbyPants
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« Reply #744 on: December 11, 2010, 11:51:37 AM » |
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Just to see what it takes sort of thing?
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #745 on: December 12, 2010, 04:33:19 AM » |
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Yeah, throwing above CR encounters would push beyond the 1/4 resources thing to see how badly we get chewed. Which after all, is where most classes break down, not routine adventuring, but when pressed hard.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #746 on: December 12, 2010, 06:46:12 AM » |
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I dunno if it was harder, per se, just made us work more specifically.
I'm learning though that, when paired against others in this style of class, the Earth variant does not the best melee guy make. Granted, could be that I'm just a slow ass dwarf...
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VennDygrem
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« Reply #747 on: December 12, 2010, 12:46:11 PM » |
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I dunno if it was harder, per se, just made us work more specifically.
I'm learning though that, when paired against others in this style of class, the Earth variant does not the best melee guy make. Granted, could be that I'm just a slow ass dwarf...
Well, we've still yet to see what it can do at higher levels. Throwing down a Fist of Stone at the start of combat could help tremendously at these early levels, and then later on, other features and spells could be very useful in offsetting the 'slowness' of the dwarf. |
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« Reply #748 on: December 13, 2010, 07:11:52 AM » |
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I'll try to get another one up in the next few days.
Do you guys want to try anything more a level 2, or do you want to level up to 4?
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #749 on: December 13, 2010, 07:22:36 AM » |
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Toss as high a CR as we can handle at 2nd and then move up I think.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #750 on: December 13, 2010, 10:58:23 AM » |
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Yeah a good hard boss fight to finish the level sounds good.
I'll either be on a lot this week or not at all. I'm going to be out of town most of the week for my little girl to have a relatively minor surgery.
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RobbyPants
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« Reply #751 on: December 13, 2010, 12:33:51 PM » |
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I hope everything goes well!
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #752 on: December 13, 2010, 06:59:15 PM » |
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Good luck Arcanis; I've been wishing you the best since back when. Hope it wraps up soon, I respect the power it must take. Sending you well wishes.
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« Reply #753 on: December 13, 2010, 09:54:29 PM » |
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Thanks guys. Flay I know we have a few more years of this. She has another heart surgery that may be in April-ish and a 3rd heart surgery around 2 or 3 years old. She is doing better than anyone imagined and has already pushed past the time they expected for the surgery they think will happen in around April.
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Clerics and Druids are like the 4 and 2 in 42. Together they are the answer to the ultimate question in D&D.
Retire the character before the DM smacks you with the Table as the book will feel totally inadequate now.-Hazren
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« Reply #754 on: December 15, 2010, 07:20:50 PM » |
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I'm back in town now. They changed everything on us several times yesterday, but is is settled until early January. Then we are looking at lots of trips and a heart surgery.
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Clerics and Druids are like the 4 and 2 in 42. Together they are the answer to the ultimate question in D&D.
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« Reply #755 on: December 21, 2010, 07:26:57 AM » |
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Water Jet Bugbear 3, unable to roll at the moment due to being at work.
Serias shoots water at the bugbear -> 2d6 = 10, and the bugbear attempts to dodge -> d20 + 4 = 9.
Damn. You probably want me to start rolling for you all the time! |
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #756 on: December 21, 2010, 08:32:08 AM » |
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It was either that or post back home, some 4 hours later.  |
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #757 on: December 21, 2010, 10:46:37 AM » |
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It was either that or post back home, some 4 hours later. I was commenting more on that I rolled well for you (and poorly for the bugbear)! |
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #758 on: December 22, 2010, 12:21:47 AM » |
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Yes, I'm blowing my spells away. Yes, this is the first battle where I've gotten close enough to actually cast them at a relevant time. Yes, I am a happy little dwarven critter.
By the by, aside from anklets of translocation, what's a good way to start enhancing my shite 40 ft speed? I've never bothered getting anything for speed for a character before, so I'm kinda lost.
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« Reply #759 on: December 22, 2010, 12:38:36 AM » |
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Assuming custom items are allowed, the easiest is constant Expeditious Retreat.
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