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« Reply #620 on: September 22, 2010, 11:33:56 AM » |
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Well, there is some precedent with the rogue.
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« Reply #621 on: September 22, 2010, 12:58:44 PM » |
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Yeah, there's the rogue, ranger, monk, and fighter. Of course, I guess that's the fighter's whole schtick in the first place. I'm hoping feats, equipment, and all the individual PC's fluff will help set them apart, along with any particular favorite spells any one PC might utilize.
I guess there are ACFs. Those would be easy enough to tack on later.
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« Reply #622 on: September 22, 2010, 04:30:51 PM » |
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I think a set of focused ACF's wold be the best way to handle that. Electrician electric damage variant for one, Bad acid tripper for geo. (lots of acid based abilities and tripping for comedic effect), The desiccator (hydro who causes dehydration effects, Dry lich??), Smore man who flings hot marshmallows for less damage but adds entanglement and damage on subsequent rounds.  Those would be good places to start.  |
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« Reply #623 on: September 22, 2010, 08:11:58 PM » |
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Okay, here is the current version. Do you guys want to make level 3 characters using the existing rules for this game? |
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #624 on: September 22, 2010, 08:14:50 PM » |
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Also, I don't know your thoughts, but as to the schools for the psionic powers: I was thinking Energy Retort could be Evocation and the rest could probably be Transmutation.
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #625 on: September 22, 2010, 09:26:34 PM » |
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Okay, here is the current version. Do you guys want to make level 3 characters using the existing rules for this game? Sure thing, one note; I can't seem to see the listed spells/day or number known. In fact, the magic section in class features is either hidden or not there in the thread-version. |
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« Reply #626 on: September 22, 2010, 10:28:37 PM » |
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Spells and spells per day would be nice to have in there. I may be a couple of days to get my guy done as work is killer and I have a tournament this weekend that I'll need to be at.
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« Reply #627 on: September 22, 2010, 11:01:43 PM » |
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I thought Robby said spells/day were gonna be equal to sorcerer, with spells known are all per level as per Dread Necro or Beguiler.
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« Reply #628 on: September 23, 2010, 07:32:31 AM » |
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Okay, here is the current version. Do you guys want to make level 3 characters using the existing rules for this game? Sure thing, one note; I can't seem to see the listed spells/day or number known. In fact, the magic section in class features is either hidden or not there in the thread-version. I thought about that after I posted it. I never added in the casting section at all. It was only implied in the intro post. I'll add the details later. For now, it's Cha-based casting, you know your entire spell list (if you're a high enough level to cast the spells), and you have the spells per day of a sorcerer. |
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Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #629 on: September 23, 2010, 07:53:30 AM » |
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I added the casting info to the classes. As I get time, I'll try to format all of the notes in the spell list with superscript to make it easier to read.
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #630 on: September 23, 2010, 10:43:48 AM » |
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fire energy type only, fire creatures only, or elemental plane of air fire only Just a minor error. As to starting level...I think four sounds better, giving access to second level spells to start. |
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« Reply #631 on: September 23, 2010, 11:10:42 AM » |
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That's partially why I was considering 3; so you would only have first level spells to test that portion of the list.
If everyone thinks 3 is too boring, I'm fine with 4.
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Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #632 on: September 23, 2010, 11:13:05 AM » |
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Testing viablity for first level spells wouldn't hurt I suppose.
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« Reply #633 on: September 23, 2010, 11:21:44 AM » |
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Testing 1st level stuff is best, yes, though I think going by level 2 might yield more info on performance.
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"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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« Reply #634 on: September 23, 2010, 02:32:54 PM » |
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I'm fine with level two, too.
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Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #635 on: September 26, 2010, 09:05:53 PM » |
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Is there anything you guys need from me to make the PCs? What level are we thinking? 2 or 3? I'm fine with either.
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Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #636 on: September 27, 2010, 09:42:49 AM » |
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well I think I have the basis of Aepa Mk2 about done,not much has changed for his low level stuff. I just need to know exactly which level we will be starting at so I can fill in the numbers and buy gear. I almost went with Far Shot but couldn't justify 2 more feats for a gimic, but I did pick up a long bow just to shoot at long ranges. If we weren't making sure to stay within just these classes I would be tempted to make a thrower with this considering that the range on thrown weapons could get big quick.
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« Reply #637 on: September 27, 2010, 03:43:57 PM » |
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I'm just waiting on starting level, as well. And I think what was mentioned about "level two" was more aimed at starting at level 2 spells. Personally I don't think there's much difference between first and second level spell access, since right then one doesn't have many 2nd level spells to cast anyway.
I await your call, though. What do you think would be more useful to start the tests at?
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« Reply #638 on: September 27, 2010, 03:47:19 PM » |
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also what level of money. I assume the PC wealth table but just want to confirm.
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« Reply #639 on: September 27, 2010, 07:06:26 PM » |
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Fuck it. I'll just say level 2 to speed things up. Figure the usual 900 gold. No more than 450 on one item. |
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Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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