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« Reply #260 on: May 19, 2010, 10:00:22 PM » |
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Yeowch, that was nearly half my total hitpoints in one attack.  Thank goodness for DR or I'd have taken more than just 11 damage. Actually, it was 15 before the DR, and 13 after. Yeah, I ran one of these against a two person group once and it was deadly. Although you guys have several advantages over that group. |
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #261 on: May 19, 2010, 10:08:52 PM » |
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Yeowch, that was nearly half my total hitpoints in one attack. Thank goodness for DR or I'd have taken more than just 11 damage. Actually, it was 15 before the DR, and 13 after. Yeah, I ran one of these against a two person group once and it was deadly. Although you guys have several advantages over that group. Actually, thanks to a feat I picked up, my DR is higher than normal. I guess I should have passed it by you first though. I was already two fights into level 3 and needed to pick something, however. |
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« Reply #262 on: May 20, 2010, 05:42:40 AM » |
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Sounds like a good time to unleash my stinkbombs.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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RobbyPants
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« Reply #263 on: May 20, 2010, 07:19:37 AM » |
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Yeowch, that was nearly half my total hitpoints in one attack. Thank goodness for DR or I'd have taken more than just 11 damage. Actually, it was 15 before the DR, and 13 after. Yeah, I ran one of these against a two person group once and it was deadly. Although you guys have several advantages over that group. Actually, thanks to a feat I picked up, my DR is higher than normal. I guess I should have passed it by you first though. I was already two fights into level 3 and needed to pick something, however. That's cool. I hadn't looked. |
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #264 on: May 20, 2010, 10:29:33 AM » |
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question that doesn't need to be answered before level 6. Would the bonus for Nymph's kiss stack add to my checks for windstrike, i think it should but want certainty. If so can Aepa have a sprite girlfriend  |
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« Reply #265 on: May 20, 2010, 10:33:14 AM » |
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I think the sickening also applies to the primary target(since it's within 10ft of itself), but not sure.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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RobbyPants
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« Reply #266 on: May 20, 2010, 10:57:04 AM » |
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question that doesn't need to be answered before level 6. Would the bonus for Nymph's kiss stack add to my checks for windstrike, i think it should but want certainty. If so can Aepa have a sprite girlfriend I'll have to look later. I don't have BoED handy right now. |
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #267 on: May 20, 2010, 11:06:38 AM » |
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I can't take it until level 6 so we have some time.
I'm still looking for more feats and items to purchase since most anything i think will be useful i can't actually qualify for. Probably going to do a lot of meta spell like feats but am looking to increase my rolls like wind push too.
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« Reply #268 on: May 20, 2010, 04:30:40 PM » |
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Blast Grizz didn't buy a healing belt...was going to heal him and then he could heal me...
I honestly considered it, but I didn't buy anything but a wand chamber to be added to my morningstar. The next encounter came up a bit too fast for me to look into what equipment I could afford. Really should've gotten that healing belt, though. Still, it might not have done me any good. We'd just be exchanging heals until we ran out and they overtook us anyway. Or someone else killed them. >_> |
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« Reply #269 on: May 20, 2010, 04:32:22 PM » |
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I saved most of my money too. I'm just not that good at finding low gp items to buy. Hopefully, that doesn't screw us at all in the next few games; these bastards hit pretty friggin hard.
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« Reply #270 on: May 20, 2010, 05:25:22 PM » |
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That they do. But again, for our party this is a "Very Difficult" encounter which is a step below impossible.  I think it's an interesting change from the encounters that we breeze through too easily, though I'm not yet sure how well it tests our classes' abilities. Still good to see how they perform under pressure, though. |
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« Reply #271 on: May 20, 2010, 05:36:58 PM » |
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Blast Grizz didn't buy a healing belt...was going to heal him and then he could heal me...
I honestly considered it, but I didn't buy anything but a wand chamber to be added to my morningstar. The next encounter came up a bit too fast for me to look into what equipment I could afford. Really should've gotten that healing belt, though. Still, it might not have done me any good. We'd just be exchanging heals until we ran out and they overtook us anyway. Or someone else killed them. >_> Would be better than you dieing. We would atleast each have gotten 4d6 healed, assuming we use all three charges cause we are so low. |
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« Reply #272 on: May 20, 2010, 05:39:54 PM » |
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We could always fog up and bombard with AoEs, but it requires that our boys get out o the way.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #273 on: May 20, 2010, 06:49:00 PM » |
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I don't know what good the fog will do against creatures with tremorsense and that can just tunnel out of the fog.  |
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« Reply #274 on: May 21, 2010, 04:44:55 AM » |
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They'd still suffer miss chances, whereas using AoEs, we don't, so long as we stay in the edges of fog, they're too large to be completely concealed as we can discern direction from sound.
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #275 on: May 21, 2010, 05:39:34 PM » |
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So to repeat the question from the battle in a generic form:
If i wind push someone who is unable to resist; ie has no physical control due to being dead, unconscious, paralyzed, etc...; do they automatically loose? What is the result of their strength check treated as (0??)?
I see this coming into play later on as i could easily push allies out of harms way if they are disabled. If they are treated as having a 0 strength check i could really get some distance on them, in some cases more than their move speed if i roll well. This also could be abused by people saying "i don't resist the push" and being treated as a 0 to get more movement than they normally could, assuming a good roll and jacked up Cha check.
To tie into this is there an option to use our abilities at lower than maximum caster level? For example could at level 20 i wanted to scare some villagers so i used the lightning bolt ability but didn't want to kill too many so i choose to only deal 3d6 (minimal level based on when it is gained)?
That would tie in because i could choose to windpush an ally for only 2d6 subdual rather than my full level.
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« Reply #276 on: May 21, 2010, 10:10:46 PM » |
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That's a good question, although, before I get too far into it, remember that Wind Push is a rider effect on Wind Strike, so you'll be damaging your allies to give them that boost. Of course, it's possible to be immune to nonlethal damage.
One way to look at non-resistance could be to use size instead of Str. Although that could get into some weird territory of actually getting more resistant when you stop resisting! Probably not the best idea.
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #277 on: May 22, 2010, 01:24:17 AM » |
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That's a good question, although, before I get too far into it, remember that Wind Push is a rider effect on Wind Strike, so you'll be damaging your allies to give them that boost. Of course, it's possible to be immune to nonlethal damage.
When you're near dying, being knocked out is a great deal more attractive than being dead. I see Wind Push as a legitimate flexibility granted the Aeromancer, being able to move friendlies around the field is pretty valuable for a class with limited tricks. |
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
There is no higher price than 'free'. "I won't die. I've been ordered not to die." |
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« Reply #278 on: May 22, 2010, 07:23:08 AM » |
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Good point. If you're already KOed, it's not like the extra non lethal damage will "hurt" you, other than make recovery take marginally longer.
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #279 on: May 27, 2010, 10:38:56 AM » |
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Sorry I took so long to get this one up. I had to get my basement ready for having carpet installed. The guys are coming today so I took the day off work. That being said, I had time to use something other than canned monsters...  Sorry, Flay. I hope this fight isn't boring as shit for you. |
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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