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« Reply #180 on: April 30, 2010, 08:51:48 AM » |
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Yeah i don't tell my DM's my exact HP because they tend to try and pull punches to not kill PCs. I want the monsters to behave as normal.
crap i just looked at my sheet and realized i haven't been using my faster speed.
It's funny that you mention it because I used to do the same thing with a friend who would DM me. He'd throw me against stuff that should statistically slaughter me, and then pull punches as the average case scenario reared its ugly head. This seriously was stuff like me running a 4th level fighter type (I think he was a barbarian 1/fighter 1/rogue 2 at that point) fighting the 4th level ogre barbarian straight out of the MM. Of course, he had to start pulling punches after I was hit twice, and I told him "you realize, we're both 4th level (which would otherwise be a 50-50 fight) and he has 4 giant HD and a +10 bonus to Str on top of that?[/rant] Rest assured that I've gotten to the point where I don't really like pulling punches in a regular game, and I certainly won't in one that's meant to playtest these classes. That, and you guys effectively get free resurrections after a fight anyway. |
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
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Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #181 on: April 30, 2010, 10:59:50 AM » |
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i wasn't exactly worried about it. Though i was having to double check me sheet when i saw how much damage i took on the 2nd hit. I was thinking "crap do i even have that many hp left!?"
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RobbyPants
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« Reply #182 on: April 30, 2010, 11:02:43 AM » |
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Yeah, I had to double check too, mainly to keep the update correct. Do I put "Aepa takes 5 damage!" or "Aepa takes 5 damage and is staggered!"?
I also had to double check the earlier post to see if you'd taken 4 and 5 damage or 6 and 5.
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #183 on: April 30, 2010, 11:58:11 AM » |
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was looking at stuff for leveling and a question has come up. What is the effective spell level of each spell like ability we have. The pertinent one in my case is Windstrike. I need to know for key info on how it interacts with feats that affect SLAs and it would be important for dealing with globes of invulnerability as well.
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« Reply #184 on: April 30, 2010, 12:55:37 PM » |
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I guess I never included that info. Figure on using this formula: Effective Spell Level = ((Class Level at which ability is acquired + 1) / 2), round down, capped at 9. For that matter, you can just reference this formula as a table: Class level Effective
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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VennDygrem
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« Reply #185 on: April 30, 2010, 01:01:12 PM » |
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Well, honestly I expected more creatures, like the downed Zombie 3, to attack me, but I guess Aepa didn't have a chance to move out of the way, or maybe I just didn't choose the right place to position myself to protect him. Either way I'm going to try and pay more attention to tactical positioning.
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« Reply #186 on: April 30, 2010, 01:33:34 PM » |
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That is about what i expected but wanted to make sure before i made some assumptions.
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« Reply #187 on: April 30, 2010, 02:25:10 PM » |
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IIRC, I just took the shortest 5-foot step for the zombie. I wasn't trying to put any more thought into it other than "closest creature".
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #188 on: April 30, 2010, 03:05:40 PM » |
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Yeah, and I didn't think of it that way, which is what got my party-member hurt. Grizz feels ashamed now.  But he'll work harder in the future to protect his allies.  |
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« Reply #189 on: April 30, 2010, 03:18:05 PM » |
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Grizz shouldn't beat himself up over it. That is what the zombies are for  . I know i was putting Aepa in a bad situation when he moved forward, i was just trying to clear a path for the rest of the party. |
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« Reply #190 on: April 30, 2010, 05:44:28 PM » |
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Yeah, my first instinct was to set up flanks, and then I remembered that they have 0 Int. They probably wouldn't put that much thought into it.
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #191 on: May 01, 2010, 02:09:46 AM » |
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Well, if the dwarf didn't get round 0'ed, the fight would have been a lot harder.
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« Reply #192 on: May 01, 2010, 02:20:55 AM » |
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Well, if the dwarf didn't get round 0'ed, the fight would have been a lot harder.
Seriously, a wiz in the works would have been a huge pain in the ass... but hey, when are they not? |
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« Reply #193 on: May 01, 2010, 12:12:26 PM » |
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Can we sell unused gear for full price?
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« Reply #194 on: May 01, 2010, 01:03:11 PM » |
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I assume we're doing the same "increasing wealth by WBL standards" from between 2nd and 3rd level values, like last level.
I'm fairly busy today, but I'll try to figure out if there are any equipment changes as well as any other changes I need at this level later. Everything else should be leveled up now.
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« Reply #195 on: May 01, 2010, 04:14:45 PM » |
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Can we sell unused gear for full price?
You mean stuff you bought and haven't used? Sure. I assume we're doing the same "increasing wealth by WBL standards" from between 2nd and 3rd level values, like last level. Yeah. You guys should get +1,800 gp, plus any expendables used last level. |
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #196 on: May 01, 2010, 05:43:01 PM » |
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well i'm done leveling i believe. The only big change was armor, i could finally get mythril shirt. I can't find any useful consumables to pick up though.
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« Reply #197 on: May 01, 2010, 08:14:10 PM » |
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Leveled and geared.
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« Reply #198 on: May 01, 2010, 08:50:55 PM » |
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I think we're just waiting on Veekie, then.
Venn, I figured Shift Weight would probably work with Fist of Stone.
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My balancing 3.5 compendiumElemental mage test gameQuotesIt is a shame stupidity isn't painful. Totally true. Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment. Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?" I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife. A dull, rusty knife. A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife. Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: **** I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet. When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!" Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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« Reply #199 on: May 02, 2010, 02:36:15 AM » |
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Hmm, eventually I gotta find some way to get Fist of Stone on a more permanent magic item, maybe 3/day or something if need be. Spending my whole turn retrieving the wand and then casting the spell often just takes too much time. As for my equipment this level I may just go with some upgraded armor as well. Not that I'm hurting on defenses, really.  |
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