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« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2010, 12:14:41 PM »

Did some corrections on my skill points on Mythweaver sheet.  Had initially did Beguiler as 8/lvl instead of 6/lvl  Embarrassed
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« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2010, 12:18:57 PM »

ok the official answer is that the penalty to CL screws my personal casting.

So i return to the original premise. Does Spellthief qualify as a spellcasting class before it hits 4th level and actually gains spells?

Also a question that would be unique to gestalt so and would be a DM question either way. If on my melee oriented side i take a class that progresses spellcasting, by qualifying with spellthief on the other side, can it progress my CL while i still take spellthief on the other side? Obviously it would have to cap at a CL of either that of a full ST or above that at Character level.

It is of dubious nature so i would understand you saying it doesn't work. I'm just looking for ways to maintain a decent enough CL to be able to cast my spells and them be useful.
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« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2010, 12:31:40 PM »


fixed.
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« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2010, 01:34:22 PM »

If on my melee oriented side i take a class that progresses spellcasting, by qualifying with spellthief on the other side, can it progress my CL while i still take spellthief on the other side? Obviously it would have to cap at a CL of either that of a full ST or above that at Character level.

Good question and one I hadn't thought of.  I assumed it would and have taken Beguiler and Swiftblade at the same time to continue my spell progression.  I assumed by taking Beguiler/Swiftblade at same time I would not actually have a deal Caster Level.
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« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2010, 02:18:02 PM »

I think StormCrow said caster levels can stack, with an upper limit == character level, and since a base class and spellcasting-advancing PrC are different sources, I would endeavor to say they both count, but only to the degree that they don't exceed your character level.

I could be wrong though, so don't take my word for it.

Got some packing to do then off to the airport. Once I'm home I'll definitely have some awesome builds worked up!
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« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2010, 03:53:10 PM »

That was my understanding as well.
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« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2010, 03:55:45 PM »


good reasherch i will alow it
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« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2010, 05:10:32 PM »

Updated with some equipment and started adding background/personality details.

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« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2010, 05:32:53 PM »

Do I have to select maneuvers and stances on the level I gain more known ones or can I wait?
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« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2010, 06:40:14 PM »

Hey guys, this is what I'm thinking of:

Human

Rogue 4/Fighter 2//Wizard 5/Mindbender 1

Feats:
{First level}Able Learner
{Human} Darkstalker
{Wizard 1}Scribe Scroll
{Third Level} Extend Spell
{Wizard 5}Spontaneous Divination (incidentally, how are we handling this feat?)
{Fighter 1} Improved Initiative (?)
{Sixth} Mindsight
{Fighter 2} Weapon Finesse (maybe... for touch spells)

Special Abilities (from classes):
Full spell casting
Familiar
Sneak Attack +2d6
Trapfinding
Evasion
Trap sense +1
Uncanny Dodge
Proficient with all simple and martial weapons
100' telepathy

BAB (are we doing the partials for BAB and saves?)
+5

Fort +4 Ref +4 Will +6

Okay, so I'm left with a few questions:
  • Specialize in Divination? If I do, I'll pick up Insightful Divination from Complete Mage.
  • I'm also thinking about going Unseen Seer or maybe Lorekeeper or maybe Divine Oracle? starting ECL 7, thoughts?
  • Any feats I'm really missing?

My main goal is to be a super spy. -shrug- I want to be able to infiltrate, gather intelligence, dispatch problems as they arise, and gtfo.
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« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2010, 10:55:20 PM »

Do I have to select maneuvers and stances on the level I gain more known ones or can I wait?
Raw yes but it isn't an unreasonable house rule to let you delay it or swap a stance when you could normally swap a maneuver but those would be house rules and a DM call.
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« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2010, 11:08:04 PM »

Do I have to select maneuvers and stances on the level I gain more known ones or can I wait?
Raw yes but it isn't an unreasonable house rule to let you delay it or swap a stance when you could normally swap a maneuver but those would be house rules and a DM call.
Alright.

Stormcrow, would you allow the gaining of maneuvers and stances on a level after the fact?
Also, had you decided on fractional BAB and saves?
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« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2010, 02:45:07 AM »

Almost done with my sheet, wondering if homebrew was allowed at all, because a better swashbuckler would be nice. I understand that, with gestalt rules, it might be not allowed.

Like I said, almost done, and then I'll post my sheet. Are legacy weapons go?
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« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2010, 08:37:49 AM »

mine is done for the most part. I kinda need to know about taking practiced spellcaster at 1st level though.

I have my entire build laid out in a spreadsheet except for a couple of the later feats and my skills. Most of my skills will be dictated by Pre-Reqs. and keeping the necessities maxed out so i'm not too worried about that.
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« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2010, 09:42:22 AM »

Stormcrow:

will you allow a Psion to qualify for Mindbender?
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« Reply #75 on: March 12, 2010, 10:19:41 AM »

Mine too is mostly done.  I probably have a bit of gear shopping yet to do but the major part of that is also done so long as the things bought are allowed.

Here is the Alton Brenic Build Spreadsheet for my build and basic future build plans

Also have some background/fluff stuff on the Mythweaver character sheet.

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« Reply #76 on: March 12, 2010, 10:40:58 AM »

Mostly done, Take a look at Master Naan so far. need to do skills and gear shopping, otherwise done.
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« Reply #77 on: March 12, 2010, 10:44:19 AM »

Nice, and only one level shy of even more SCM fun  Big Grin
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« Reply #78 on: March 12, 2010, 11:03:29 AM »

Nice, and only one level shy of even more SCM fun  Big Grin
actually, with my CL boost and the altered prereqs for SCM, i can make the last sorc level into SCM.
no, wait, dammit! i need hide as a class skill to do that. unless the skill requirements are removed. otherwise, i'll just get something else for my first gestalt level, so i can get hide as a class skill.
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« Reply #79 on: March 12, 2010, 11:10:02 AM »

Might I suggest some Swordsage and the Shadow Trickster feat (ToB)
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