Hijax
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2010, 10:13:34 AM » |
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i'm think psi on one side and some sort of ToB on the other. Think of it as having a rail gun (crystal shard) with a +5 bayonet of ass kicking (maneuvers)
this was my idea. fuck you. gonna go with some sort of caster, then. Factotum//illusionist/SCM. question: is the kobold sorcerer cheese allowed? dragonwrought, using loredrake on it, greater draconic rite of passage. I wasn't going to go too hard on action manipulation which is where i figure you are going so you could still do it and we both have very different characters.I think i've changed my mind anyway. Now leaning toward Druid//rogue/Master of Many forms/Template or LA Race. yay! actually, i'm probably gonna go with an ardent/illusionist thing. if the racial prereqs on SCM gets waived and kobold cheese is allowed, i can get the fisrt level at level 6 with sorcerer.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2010, 10:44:00 AM » |
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Is Dragonlance material open? Looking at a template that could be easily adjusted to your world for my character. (and no it isn't dragonspawn  )
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2010, 10:50:58 AM » |
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Is Dragonlance material open? sorry I don't have any dragion lance Material so no but i do have most all the Ebbron books , most of the the Orental Adventures and about half of the forggoten realms as well as I think 90% of the ones wizzards made. and most of the Ravenloft books
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2010, 10:57:34 AM » |
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dagnabit. ok i'll see if there is another template i may want if not i just won't take one.
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2010, 11:03:42 AM » |
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I am thinking about a Dark Changeling with major devil bloodline going for Chameleon maybe dip into Swordsage.
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2010, 11:08:12 AM » |
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I definitely want in, if I can. Beguiler 5/Mindbender 1//I'm thinking... hmmm. I dunno. Maybe some bitchin LA/racial stuff over here. Or maybe a pastiche of martial classes. Or rogue. I'm not certain. Maybe some levels of Rogue and then--> unseen seer? Definitely will be going the mindsight route. Hmmm. Or maybe Focused Conjurer/Transmuter 5(gogo spontaneous divination!)/Mindbender 1//Psion 6 That could be interesting, to say the least. I'll be thinking about it. Just know that my covert ops shit has mindsight, lol. Edit: I'm thinking Phrenic Pixie//Wizard 5/Mindbender 1 Doesn't leave me with much on one side, except for UBER INFILTRATION CAPABILITIES! And, then, on the other side... I'm a fucking wizard. Muwahaha 
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OOC-well for that matter he could just ride on my sword, that's about 15'  OOC - That's what SHE said! But, otherwise, that works for me, if you guys are willing.
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Hijax
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2010, 11:11:38 AM » |
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re-listing my questions: can i get into SCM without being a gnome? can i use the kobold caster cheese(dragonwrought kobold, using loredrake on it, greater draconic rite of passage) (new) can i make custom mantles for ardent?
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2010, 11:44:30 AM » |
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re-listing my questions: 1. can i get into SCM without being a gnome? 2. can i use the kobold caster cheese(dragonwrought kobold, using loredrake on it, greater draconic rite of passage) 3. (new) can i make custom mantles for ardent?
1. what book is it from so I can see the rules (I don't know it off the top of my head 2. I am ok with some min / max rule abuse if it is in the raw but please no pun puns 3. ardents are from what ?
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Hijax
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2010, 11:49:18 AM » |
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re-listing my questions: 1. can i get into SCM without being a gnome? 2. can i use the kobold caster cheese(dragonwrought kobold, using loredrake on it, greater draconic rite of passage) 3. (new) can i make custom mantles for ardent?
1. what book is it from so I can see the rules (I don't know it off the top of my head 2. I am ok with some min / max rule abuse if it is in the raw but please no pun puns 3. ardents are from what ? 1: races of stone 2: my main issue is that it is pretty arguable if i can use loredrake. it can be smacked on true dragons. the way i read it, dragons only need to have age categories(this is somewhere in the draconomicon) to qualify as true, and dragonwrought makes me a dragon. however, some people disagree. 3: complete psionic.
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2010, 11:54:40 AM » |
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Here's a question:
Can I use weapon finesse to apply to touch attacks? It seems like touch attacks are natural and/or light weapons.
Also, how do you handle polymorph/metamorphosis?
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OOC-well for that matter he could just ride on my sword, that's about 15'  OOC - That's what SHE said! But, otherwise, that works for me, if you guys are willing.
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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2010, 12:08:17 PM » |
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I'm going with a spellthief focused build now. Strait ST on one side with martial classes for BaB and utility on the other. Plan on using this to debuff the badguy and steal all of his spells to use for the party  . With that in mind i still can't figure out race and ways to guarantee sneak attack. Right now i'll be flanking with my animal companion (until a bad guy gets wise and kills it) or party member. I do plan on getting the feat to allow me to summon elementals eventually, for flankers on the fly. Undead and Constructs pose a special problem, more so the undead as they tend to be spellcasters.
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2010, 12:14:25 PM » |
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as for the can i make custom mantles for ardent?
I after reading it over the sections I will say no the other 2 questions will take some more time to answer as I read them over and think about and some pg number will help
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Can I use weapon finesse to apply to touch attacks? It seems like touch attacks are natural and/or light weapons
the RAW says yes for a caster but I was going to view them as spells.
& Also, how do you handle polymorph/metamorphosis see RAW
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2010, 12:32:05 PM » |
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as for the can i make custom mantles for ardent?
I after reading it over the sections I will say no the other 2 questions will take some more time to answer as I read them over and think about
Looks like Phrenic Pixie is out of the question, too. Hmmm. Also: What about Weapon Finesse? What about how you handle polymorph/metamorphosis?
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OOC-well for that matter he could just ride on my sword, that's about 15'  OOC - That's what SHE said! But, otherwise, that works for me, if you guys are willing.
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2010, 12:56:34 PM » |
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Looks like Phrenic Pixie is out of the question, too. Hmmm.
Also: What about Weapon Finesse?
What about how you handle polymorph/metamorphosis?
Can I use weapon finesse to apply to touch attacks? It seems like touch attacks are natural and/or light weapons the RAW says yes for a caster but I was going to view them as spells. & Also, how do you handle polymorph is going buy the Rules as Writen
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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2010, 01:01:11 PM » |
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Awesome for Polymorph/Meamorphosis.
I'm still a little unclear about Weapon Finesse for spell touch attacks. If I have Weapon Finesse and I cast Inflict Light Wounds (for example), do I use my strength or my dexterity modifier?
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OOC-well for that matter he could just ride on my sword, that's about 15'  OOC - That's what SHE said! But, otherwise, that works for me, if you guys are willing.
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Hijax
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2010, 01:11:07 PM » |
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I after reading it over the sections I will say no the other 2 questions will take some more time to answer as I read them over and think about and some pg number will help
SCM is on page 120. loredrake is in dragons of eberron under the sovereign archetypes section. The definition of a True dragon is spread through the draconomicon.
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« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2010, 02:02:30 PM » |
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As per touch attacks, they are still normal attacks, they just bypass armor and such. So a spell touch attack is normally made either as a ranged touch attack (as for a warlock's eldritch blast) or as a melee touch attack. Since you're making it with your hand, which is classified as a light or natural weapon, I think Weapon Finesse, RAW, should apply to touch attacks made as part of a spell.
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« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2010, 02:40:03 PM » |
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Only considering it right now so i may not use it, but how about Hellbred with some re-flavoring. It is in Fiendish Codex 2 pg 77
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« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2010, 02:49:33 PM » |
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Traits/flaws?
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2010, 03:18:58 PM » |
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Clyde: Ninja 6// Ranger 6 with a wolf/riding dog animal companion named "Interceptor".
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It always seems like the barrels around here have something in them.
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