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Author Topic: Dominant Ideal+Synchronicity Nova, extra standard actions for only 1 pp.  (Read 4593 times)
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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2010, 01:05:07 PM »

Actually the metamind is the best action abuser in the game.

Not only do they not have to worry about PP recharge they get infinite actions on turn 0 if they use sense danger.

true, but we have full ML. although infinite actions are better.
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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2010, 01:22:33 PM »

Actually the metamind is the best action abuser in the game.

Not only do they not have to worry about PP recharge they get infinite actions on turn 0 if they use sense danger.

When does the Metamind bloom, though? Level 18 or so?
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« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2010, 07:35:46 PM »

Level 15 gives you Font of Power. 14 if you try really hard.

Ardent 5/Metamind 10/Ardent +5 with Dominant Ideal and Practiced Manifested is a breathtakingly powerful build.
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« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2010, 08:24:15 AM »

as this thread proves, ardent 10 with dominant ideal is a breathtakingly powerful build, easily capable of taking out anything that isn't immune to everything it can do(assuming it wins initiative).
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« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2010, 02:15:13 PM »

Level 15 gives you Font of Power. 14 if you try really hard.

Ardent 5/Metamind 10/Ardent +5 with Dominant Ideal and Practiced Manifested is a breathtakingly powerful build.

Combine with another means of focus in addition to your psicrystal and yourself and you not only have the self-sustaining infinite pp trick, but a self-sustaining action/time loop.
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« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2010, 04:19:36 PM »

as this thread proves, ardent 10 with dominant ideal is a breathtakingly powerful build, easily capable of taking out anything that isn't immune to everything it can do(assuming it wins initiative).

I don't think the rolling Synchronicity Ardent even needs to win initiative. The near-infinite PP recharge means the cost of augmenting Synchronicity a few dozen times each round is negligible, and that lets the manifester take that readied standard action at any time without specifying the action beforehand. It should even beat out Dire Tortoises casting Celerity in automatic surprise rounds.
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« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2010, 04:30:38 PM »

as this thread proves, ardent 10 with dominant ideal is a breathtakingly powerful build, easily capable of taking out anything that isn't immune to everything it can do(assuming it wins initiative).

I don't think the rolling Synchronicity Ardent even needs to win initiative. The near-infinite PP recharge means the cost of augmenting Synchronicity a few dozen times each round is negligible, and that lets the manifester take that readied standard action at any time without specifying the action beforehand. It should even beat out Dire Tortoises casting Celerity in automatic surprise rounds.

Which also makes me wonder what the interactions are when manifesting powers through limited wish, wish, miracle, etc.  As in does it go off your CL?  Is it a true power or a psi-like ability?  I could sure use a ML 114 vigor to start my day Smile
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« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2010, 04:35:50 PM »

Ardent into Metamind with PracMan, is probably the best bet, for Metamind anyway.
Slightly more survivability can be had at lower levels, by dipping Erudite 1.
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« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2010, 04:55:02 PM »

Which also makes me wonder what the interactions are when manifesting powers through limited wish, wish, miracle, etc.  As in does it go off your CL?  Is it a true power or a psi-like ability?  I could sure use a ML 114 vigor to start my day Smile

You could probably do it as a Psi-Like Ability with Limited Wish or Miracle by taking advantage of the clause that lets you generate effects of a similar power level. Having the effect of a PLA at an ML equal to your CL should certainly qualify about as well as a straight power. Note that Wish doesn't have that clause, and might not be able to emulate PLAs without invoking the DM fiat clause.

Without wishing for the effect as a PLA, it would work with the "Duplicate any other spell of Nth level or lower" clause. That manifests a single 5 hp Vigor. I think it would also include the augmentation clause in Vigor and other powers, so feel free to spend 114 more PP on it, assuming the CL to ML transparency is valid here.

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« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2010, 08:58:48 PM »

as this thread proves, ardent 10 with dominant ideal is a breathtakingly powerful build, easily capable of taking out anything that isn't immune to everything it can do(assuming it wins initiative).

If you have the time mantle, you can automatically learn Anticipatory Strike without asking your DM to add it for the time mantle for it is already there.  Anticipatory Strike is the psionic version of celerity.
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« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2010, 03:15:11 AM »

as this thread proves, ardent 10 with dominant ideal is a breathtakingly powerful build, easily capable of taking out anything that isn't immune to everything it can do(assuming it wins initiative).

If you have the time mantle, you can automatically learn Anticipatory Strike without asking your DM to add it for the time mantle for it is already there.  Anticipatory Strike is the psionic version of celerity.

is there a psionic foresight?
otherwise, we just have to take the beating. but thats what barbarians are for.
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« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2010, 03:31:58 AM »

as this thread proves, ardent 10 with dominant ideal is a breathtakingly powerful build, easily capable of taking out anything that isn't immune to everything it can do(assuming it wins initiative).

If you have the time mantle, you can automatically learn Anticipatory Strike without asking your DM to add it for the time mantle for it is already there.  Anticipatory Strike is the psionic version of celerity.

is there a psionic foresight?

Maybe mix Detect Hostile Intent and Hypercognition together?
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« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2010, 03:33:51 AM »

And Mindsight, and Touchsight, and Transdimensional Touchsight, and what the hell, Lifesight off a minion Smile
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« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2010, 10:25:06 AM »

as this thread proves, ardent 10 with dominant ideal is a breathtakingly powerful build, easily capable of taking out anything that isn't immune to everything it can do(assuming it wins initiative).

If you have the time mantle, you can automatically learn Anticipatory Strike without asking your DM to add it for the time mantle for it is already there.  Anticipatory Strike is the psionic version of celerity.

is there a psionic foresight?
otherwise, we just have to take the beating. but thats what barbarians are for.
All you need is a cunning weapon of legacy.  You can get the cunning ability at level 11 (just like the rest of the build comes together at 11).  And you lose nothing major with weapons of legacy and you have a psionic focus, one feat (practiced manifester) and you have no negative effects.
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« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2010, 03:17:40 PM »

is there a psionic foresight?
otherwise, we just have to take the beating. but thats what barbarians are for.

Its called sense danger. It is, in fact, better than foresight in many ways because it technically allows you to take an immediate action before anyone else has even acted meaning no one else can use immediate actions and you are always the first to take your turn...synchronicity or temporal acceleration anyone?
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« Reply #55 on: March 13, 2010, 03:44:53 PM »

is there a psionic foresight?
otherwise, we just have to take the beating. but thats what barbarians are for.

Its called sense danger. It is, in fact, better than foresight in many ways because it technically allows you to take an immediate action before anyone else has even acted meaning no one else can use immediate actions and you are always the first to take your turn...synchronicity or temporal acceleration anyone?

...where did the fact that i only asked if this existed so we could get to manifest our linked synchronicities before everyone else get lost?
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« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2010, 04:42:10 PM »

Actually the metamind is the best action abuser in the game.

Not only do they not have to worry about PP recharge they get infinite actions on turn 0 if they use sense danger.

Actually I was just reiterating something I said earlier...I don't even remember you mentioning it.
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« Reply #57 on: March 13, 2010, 04:56:08 PM »

Actually the metamind is the best action abuser in the game.

Not only do they not have to worry about PP recharge they get infinite actions on turn 0 if they use sense danger.

Actually I was just reiterating something I said earlier...I don't even remember you mentioning it.

I didn't see "sense danger" in the SRD, only "danger sense" which only gets Imp Uncanny Dodge.  Is it a different power in CPsi?
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« Reply #58 on: March 13, 2010, 06:18:29 PM »

Its in magic of eberron or something
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« Reply #59 on: March 13, 2010, 06:51:53 PM »

Time to kill a kitten..."Psionics is Broken".
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