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« on: March 02, 2010, 11:22:05 PM »

Dragon Magic, page 65.

CALL OF THE TWILIGHT DEFENDER
Conjuration (Summoning)
Level: Druid 6, sorcerer/wizard 6
Components: V
Casting Time: 1 full round
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Effect: One twilight guardian
Duration: 1 round/level
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No
The very ground erupts in a shower of stone and dirt, accompanied by a thunderclap. Standing in the center of the damaged ground is a creature of stone, wood, and plant parts resembling (lie regal form of a guardian dragon.
This spell summons one twilight guardian (see page 121) to fight for you. The spell functions like a summon natures
ally spell, but with one exception. At any time, a summoned twilight guardian can sacrifice itself by simply touching you (a standard action); the twilight
guardian is immediately destroyed, and you gain a number of hit points equal to 1/2 the twilight guardian's remaining hit points before its sacrifice.
Special: A character who learns this spell gains a +1 competence bonus on Knowledge (nature) checks.

Note that there is no cap on how much HP you can get with this spell, nor does the HP expire.

Thanks to Olo Demonsbane for pointing this out.
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 11:22:52 PM »

Can you post the creature?
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2010, 11:25:34 PM »

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Note that there is no cap on how much HP you can get with this spell, nor does the HP expire.
Wow. Talk about begging for a house rule.  Laugh
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2010, 11:30:11 PM »

TWILIGHT GUARDIAN CR 7
Always N Large plant (dragonblood)
Init +2; Senses low-light vision, Listen +2, Spot +2
AC 19, touch 11, flat-footed 17 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +8 natural)
hp 76 (8HD); DR 10/magic
SR 16
Immune: plant immunities (MM 313)
Fort +11, Ref +4, Will +1
Speed 50ft. (10 squares)
Melee 2claws+12(1d6+7) and tail +7 (2d6+3 plus poison)
Space10ft.; Reach5 ft.
Base Atk +6; Grp +17
Atk Options Combat Reflexes
Spell-Like Abilities(CL8th):
At will—transport via plants
Abilities Str 25, Dex 14, Con 20. Int 1, Wis 8, Cha 6
Feats Combat Reflexes, Improved Natural Attack (tail), Run
Skills Climb +9, Listen +2, Search –1, Spot +2
Advancement see text
Poison (Ex) Injury, Fortitude DC 19, initial and secondary damage 1d4 Con. The save DC is Constitution-based.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2010, 11:35:25 PM »

twilight tag!
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 01:14:54 AM »

Note that there is no cap on how much HP you can get with this spell, nor does the HP expire.

So it's an arcane healing spell.  Not a particularly efficient one, either.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2010, 01:16:20 AM »

Note that there is no cap on how much HP you can get with this spell, nor does the HP expire.

So it's an arcane healing spell.  Not a particularly efficient one, either.
more like vigor(psionic) on crack. so, really, just run of the mill arcane spellcasting.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2010, 01:36:13 AM »

Never said it was temp HP.

And since you can't gain hp over your normal total.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2010, 01:40:20 AM »

Quick question: Where is that rule? I remember something about not being able to be healed more than your normal total...
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2010, 02:49:09 AM »

Quick question: Where is that rule? I remember something about not being able to be healed more than your normal total...
Quote from: SRD
You can never recover more hit points than you lost.
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2010, 08:55:56 AM »

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The spell functions like a summon natures ally spell, but with one exception

Does that mean his pvs can be boosted?
Things that come to mind:

Augment Summoning Feat [+16 pvs]
Enhanced Summonning [+8/+16 pvs]
Malconvoker'S Deceptive Summons [+2 pvs/HD]
Master Specialist Minor School Esoterica (Conjurartion) [+1 pv/CL]
Elhonna's Brooch [+1 pv/HD]
Ring of Mighty Summons [maximum hit points per Hit Die]
Admiral's Bicorne [+2 pvs/HD]

Does all of those stack?
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2010, 11:22:30 AM »

Quick question: Where is that rule? I remember something about not being able to be healed more than your normal total...
Quote from: SRD
You can never recover more hit points than you lost.

You aren't recovering them though, you are gaining them.  I think Phaedrus hit the nail on the head
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2010, 02:21:22 PM »

Quick question: Where is that rule? I remember something about not being able to be healed more than your normal total...
Quote from: SRD
You can never recover more hit points than you lost.

You aren't recovering them though, you are gaining them.  I think Phaedrus hit the nail on the head
If you're going to use that logic, you might as well say that they add to your maximum hp.

I just don't see it flying.
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2010, 11:31:28 PM »

Quick question: Where is that rule? I remember something about not being able to be healed more than your normal total...
Quote from: SRD
You can never recover more hit points than you lost.

You aren't recovering them though, you are gaining them.  I think Phaedrus hit the nail on the head
If you're going to use that logic, you might as well say that they add to your maximum hp.

I just don't see it flying.

I think that's the point, actually. In much the same way as your hit points for leveling up are described as "gained", IIRC.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2010, 11:39:11 PM »

Quick question: Where is that rule? I remember something about not being able to be healed more than your normal total...
Quote from: SRD
You can never recover more hit points than you lost.

You aren't recovering them though, you are gaining them.  I think Phaedrus hit the nail on the head
If you're going to use that logic, you might as well say that they add to your maximum hp.

I just don't see it flying.

As a slight aside, do you see 99% of the shit I post on here flying in the average game? 

Gotta wonder what would happen if this were Echoed a few times...it'd be like the ultimate patch bot on a Circle Magic caster.  Now we know why everyone hates the Hathrans (who incidentally can do WAY better with a couple persisted spells to effectively have infinite hp anyway)!
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 11:43:50 PM »

I just don't see it flying.

Yeah, the twilight defender doesn't have wings or anything.
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2010, 12:08:57 AM »

Quick question: Where is that rule? I remember something about not being able to be healed more than your normal total...
Quote from: SRD
You can never recover more hit points than you lost.

You aren't recovering them though, you are gaining them.  I think Phaedrus hit the nail on the head
If you're going to use that logic, you might as well say that they add to your maximum hp.

I just don't see it flying.

As a slight aside, do you see 99% of the shit I post on here flying in the average game? 

Gotta wonder what would happen if this were Echoed a few times...it'd be like the ultimate patch bot on a Circle Magic caster.  Now we know why everyone hates the Hathrans (who incidentally can do WAY better with a couple persisted spells to effectively have infinite hp anyway)!
In which case this shouldn't be in this section of the forums.
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2010, 12:16:22 AM »

Sounds like a good candidate for the Dirty Trick Handbook, IMO.
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2010, 04:32:02 PM »

Positive Energy Plane, GG.

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I thought we were having trouble breaking the cap. Nevermind, then.
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2010, 06:53:27 PM »

How do Vivacious Creatures, the Positive Energy Plane, and Twilight Defender equal GG?
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