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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2010, 02:59:17 PM » |
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1. Primordial Giant is an acquired template? 2. Incarnate Construct Warforged have the Giant subtype? Don't forget that "Incarnate Construct" is a hell of a spell. This post is to be modified with official material. |
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2010, 03:06:43 PM » |
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1. Primordial Giant is an acquired template? I'm pretty sure it's not. Does it have to be? 2. Incarnate Construct Warforged have the Giant subtype? Only if they're Large before having the template applied to them, which can be achieved through size-altering effects before casting the spell. |
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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2010, 03:13:08 PM » |
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How can an Incarnate Construct inherit an inherited template? I also doubt your second point in regards to effects that alter a Warforged's size, and the donning of the giant subtype as a result of size. I think there was difficulty in finding a practical spell for the former. Incarnate Construct template Incarnate Construct spell re: donning of the giant subtype due to size when donning the Incarnate Construct template: wow, I didn't know that!
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2010, 04:40:05 PM » |
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Poster named Obeah, who disappeared shortly after, did this: INTELLIGENCE Grey Elf with the first level of the Half-Dragon template class ( http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20030912a), +4 Int +2 Str, +2 NA, Darkvision 60ft, and Resistance 10 to one energy type. (LA+1)(Thanks Lilt) Petal Str -6; Dex +10; Con +4; Int +4; Wis +0; Cha +8 (LA +2, HD=0) - also has DR, flight, and tiny size (cohort only) (MM III) Petal Captured One(shrapnyl) incarnate construct Str 18(18 not +18) Dex 11, Con +4, Int +4, Wis 19, Cha +8 Necropolitan Phrenic Magic-Blooded Venerable Star Elf +11 Cha, +5 Int, + 3 Wis, no Con (undead type), -6 Str, -6 Dex, LA +2, lots of great features for a sorcerer! (thanks BarbeChenue) from (linky) ---> http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19869050/Obeahs_Races_thread_disappeared_ |
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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2010, 06:52:41 PM » |
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I'd got for a Warforged Incarnate Construct Primordial Giant at -4 STR, +4 INT, -2 WIS, +2 CHA. LA +0.
Primordial Giant also gives some other benefits like Invisiblity (or a pick of one other Spell) as a SLA at-will.
Arguably, you could put on a +2 Template on this for free. Quorbred or Phrenic would probably be best for this case. |
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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2010, 12:36:57 AM » |
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Quorbred from Secrets of Sarlona - +4 INT for +2 LA. Edit: Though not better than Phrenic... That one is hard to beat because of all the nifty powers and whatnot. And of course Dragonwrought Kobolds get +3 INT for +0 LA.  I'm not real familiar with Dragonwrougt Kobolds. How exactly do they get +3 int for +0 LA? |
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2010, 12:38:19 AM » |
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Quorbred from Secrets of Sarlona - +4 INT for +2 LA. Edit: Though not better than Phrenic... That one is hard to beat because of all the nifty powers and whatnot. And of course Dragonwrought Kobolds get +3 INT for +0 LA. I'm not real familiar with Dragonwrougt Kobolds. How exactly do they get +3 int for +0 LA? no aging penalties; start as venerable, get +3 int/wis/cha. |
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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2010, 09:39:19 AM » |
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Quorbred from Secrets of Sarlona - +4 INT for +2 LA. Edit: Though not better than Phrenic... That one is hard to beat because of all the nifty powers and whatnot. And of course Dragonwrought Kobolds get +3 INT for +0 LA. I'm not real familiar with Dragonwrougt Kobolds. How exactly do they get +3 int for +0 LA? no aging penalties; start as venerable, get +3 int/wis/cha. On more Questions. Making the kobold dragonwrought you have to use up your starting feat, correct? |
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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2010, 10:40:57 AM » |
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Quorbred from Secrets of Sarlona - +4 INT for +2 LA. Edit: Though not better than Phrenic... That one is hard to beat because of all the nifty powers and whatnot. And of course Dragonwrought Kobolds get +3 INT for +0 LA. I'm not real familiar with Dragonwrougt Kobolds. How exactly do they get +3 int for +0 LA? no aging penalties; start as venerable, get +3 int/wis/cha. On more Questions. Making the kobold dragonwrought you have to use up your starting feat, correct? Yes, but Flaws and Class may allow for more feats. |
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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2010, 06:47:12 PM » |
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INT Prodigy- +2 INT +4 on INT based skills +2 LA
DMG II Page 157/159
Unique Abilities.
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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2010, 02:32:50 PM » |
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INT Prodigy- +2 INT +4 on INT based skills +2 LA
DMG II Page 157/159
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2010, 02:42:08 PM » |
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INT Prodigy- +2 INT +4 on INT based skills +2 LA
DMG II Page 157/159
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NPC only, so no. It's not really relevant Not NPC only, just mainly NPC. They have listed LA (NPCs boost CR instead). see below. |
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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2010, 03:52:28 PM » |
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NPC only, so no. It's not really relevant Not NPC only, just mainly NPC. They have listed LA (NPCs boost CR instead). see below. [/quote]True. But HORRIBLY UNBALANCED. If the boards considers this non-TO, fair game, I have a few characters to make |
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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2010, 06:09:07 PM » |
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NPC only, so no. It's not really relevant Not NPC only, just mainly NPC. They have listed LA (NPCs boost CR instead). see below. True. But HORRIBLY UNBALANCED. If the boards considers this non-TO, fair game, I have a few characters to make They aren't really that unbalanced. The best one is LA+5 for an extra standard action per round. |
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