"So, you wanted a nuke? Move over Paladins."

[snakeman830]

I'm trying to figure out, as a theoretical excersie, a way to cast an Apocolypse from the Sky and have the effect be centered far enough away that the caster isn't affected by the damage (ignoring the fact that Energy Immunity or Protection from Energy is easy enough to cast).  After that, the extra bit of adding the Explosive metamagic feat ought to be easy.

Now, the easy way would be Incantrix using the Delay Spell metamagic feat when casting AftS and teleporting out, but I was hoping for a way that didn't involve teleporting.  My guess would be Arcane Archer, but I have no idea how to get the range far enough pre-epic, especially after sacrificing so many feats to AA.

Currently, the best I've got is Wizard 10/Incantrix 10 with Snowcasting, Iron Will, Energy Substitution (electricity), Born of Three Thunders, Explosive Spell, Delay Spell, and Arcane Thesis (Apocolypse from the sky).

[KellKheraptis]

I'm trying to figure out, as a theoretical excersie, a way to cast an Apocolypse from the Sky and have the effect be centered far enough away that the caster isn't affected by the damage (ignoring the fact that Energy Immunity or Protection from Energy is easy enough to cast).  After that, the extra bit of adding the Explosive metamagic feat ought to be easy.

Now, the easy way would be Incantrix using the Delay Spell metamagic feat when casting AftS and teleporting out, but I was hoping for a way that didn't involve teleporting.  My guess would be Arcane Archer, but I have no idea how to get the range far enough pre-epic, especially after sacrificing so many feats to AA.

Centered on caster, Extraordinary Spell Aim.  Omit yourself from the AoE   And if you don't wanna cheese that up (since unlike the other about to be mentioned, AFtS will carve out a section of the crust and mantle and destroy the planet), Locate City bombs work too.

[snakeman830]

I'm trying to figure out, as a theoretical excersie, a way to cast an Apocolypse from the Sky and have the effect be centered far enough away that the caster isn't affected by the damage (ignoring the fact that Energy Immunity or Protection from Energy is easy enough to cast).  After that, the extra bit of adding the Explosive metamagic feat ought to be easy.

Now, the easy way would be Incantrix using the Delay Spell metamagic feat when casting AftS and teleporting out, but I was hoping for a way that didn't involve teleporting.  My guess would be Arcane Archer, but I have no idea how to get the range far enough pre-epic, especially after sacrificing so many feats to AA.

Centered on caster, Extraordinary Spell Aim.  Omit yourself from the AoE   And if you don't wanna cheese that up (since unlike the other about to be mentioned, AFtS will carve out a section of the crust and mantle and destroy the planet), Locate City bombs work too.

This is true, but Explosive Spell is really much better on AftS.  Ten times better, in fact.

[KellKheraptis]

I'm trying to figure out, as a theoretical excersie, a way to cast an Apocolypse from the Sky and have the effect be centered far enough away that the caster isn't affected by the damage (ignoring the fact that Energy Immunity or Protection from Energy is easy enough to cast).  After that, the extra bit of adding the Explosive metamagic feat ought to be easy.

Now, the easy way would be Incantrix using the Delay Spell metamagic feat when casting AftS and teleporting out, but I was hoping for a way that didn't involve teleporting.  My guess would be Arcane Archer, but I have no idea how to get the range far enough pre-epic, especially after sacrificing so many feats to AA.

Centered on caster, Extraordinary Spell Aim.  Omit yourself from the AoE   And if you don't wanna cheese that up (since unlike the other about to be mentioned, AFtS will carve out a section of the crust and mantle and destroy the planet), Locate City bombs work too.

This is true, but Explosive Spell is really much better on AftS.  Ten times better, in fact.

Yes and no.  Yes, it affects WAY more area.  No, you have to then also survive the void of space, because the planet is toast.

[snakeman830]

Hmm.

Warforged Wizard 9/Binder 1/Anima Mage 10

1. Bind Naberius
2. Prepare AftS
3. Prepare Genesis
4. Prepare Energy Immunity
5. Cast Energy Immunity
6. Use Vestige Casting to cast AftS as an immediate action, activating Vestige Metamagic to Maximise it and a Greater Metamagic Rod of Empower for 60+5d6 damage (sonic works best, obviously)
7. Cast Genesis
8. Enjoy being a god of the new world.

Doesn't have the joys of Explosive spell, but I guess it has its own appeal.

[Negative Zero]

I think you need explosive to deal with the adventurers who have 100+ health and wouldn't like you annihilating the planet.

[Dragonamedrake]

Try this little trick.

Wizard 5/Incantrix 10/ Archmage 5

Take mastery of shaping.

Throw down a REALITY MAELSTROM and then center the largest AOE explosive spell at your desposal. However shape it to where it doesnt include the Maelstrom and there you go... everything within the inner 50 percent of the radius of your expolosive spell is shunted violently to another plane... see ya.

A city bomb would work however anyone indoors or anyone that hits a solid object would be halted. It would work alot better if there was a way to designate any area a city... think of a large tent city ... like the camp of an army on the move... now that would be impressive. 2 spells and the war is over!

[snakeman830]

The thing with AftS is that it is far more destructive (the point of nukes) than a Locate City bomb and has 10*the affected area.  Adding Explosive Spell to it (Snowcasting and Energy Substitution can be skipped, since the spell already does energy damage) in the same manner ends up being even worse (not to mention the higher save DC from a 9th level spell).

[bearsarebrown]

Get it as a SpA(somehow...) so you can Supernatural Transformation it, leaving it as No save, No SR.

[snakeman830]

Get it as a SpA(somehow...) so you can Supernatural Transformation it, leaving it as No save, No SR.

Making it no-save makes it ineligable for Explosive spell.  That said, AftS doesn't allow a save anyway (hence the Born of Three Thunders necessity in making it Explosive).  I'm personally amused you can end the world on someone else's turn.

[McPoyo]

As long as it's no SR, you don't have to worry about all the half-golem adventurers coming to kill you afterward.

[Ithamar]

Though the Warforged Juggernaut / Master of Many Forms would be annoyed that you leave them floating through space...