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« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2010, 01:58:05 AM » |
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I would love to see a dragonwrought kobold who acted like that encounter a more traditional true dragon. Especially if the kobold wins the fight which is not unlikely.
As I believe I've mentioned before on these forums, in my campaign setting dragons were made in the image of kobolds, rather than the other way around.  +1 to that |
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« Reply #81 on: January 08, 2010, 03:44:57 PM » |
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Seriously JaronK, stop feeding that troll on GiantITP. It's not worth it...
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« Reply #82 on: January 08, 2010, 03:52:30 PM » |
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A less-than Old Dragonwrought Kobold They exist  Heh, nice. And any DM can RAW say the DW Kobold is pressed into service B E F O R E all the fun stuff kicks in. The DWK just has to survive until Old age, and then have a convenient PsyRef item sitting around waiting for the Happy Birthday Celebration Kobold style. (egad what a weird party) |
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« Reply #83 on: January 08, 2010, 03:55:44 PM » |
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I would love to see a dragonwrought kobold who acted like that encounter a more traditional true dragon. Especially if the kobold wins the fight which is not unlikely.
As I believe I've mentioned before on these forums, in my campaign setting dragons were made in the image of kobolds, rather than the other way around. +1 to that Me too. "I believe in Pun-pun Almighty, maker of my D&D heaven and earth (etc)" |
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« Reply #84 on: January 08, 2010, 04:27:36 PM » |
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Seriously JaronK, stop feeding that troll on GiantITP. It's not worth it...
Actually, I think at this point each person who's tried to champion the cause of Kobolds not being true has in turn dropped out, usually admitting that by RAW they are. Then a new one jumps in. It's like whackamole. JaronK |
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« Reply #85 on: January 08, 2010, 04:51:08 PM » |
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Seriously JaronK, stop feeding that troll on GiantITP. It's not worth it...
Actually, I think at this point each person who's tried to champion the cause of Kobolds not being true has in turn dropped out, usually admitting that by RAW they are. Then a new one jumps in. It's like whackamole. JaronK either that, or they just figure that it's not worth the effort to continue the argument  |
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 If you stop ignoring 289 pages telling what the intent is to stretch "more power" in your own god complexion of your interpretation trumps all to cover ability adjustments from aging then I will ignore a quarter page of rules that exist within a sidebar.
I think in this case the grammar is less important than whether the Str and Dex bonus provided to your created undead scales.
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« Reply #86 on: January 08, 2010, 05:07:52 PM » |
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Actually, a number have outright said "okay, nevermind, it's RAW." So, it's not just giving up and getting bored. And hey, it's education!
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« Reply #87 on: January 24, 2010, 10:32:01 AM » |
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These discussions have become more frequently over in GitP...thinking about creating some image macros specifically for those threads. Most recent one: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7755285#post7755285. Also, it was meant to be a discussion about Dragonwrought kobold + Spellhoarding template from Dragon #313. |
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« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2010, 07:35:57 AM » |
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(don't know if this has been discussed or not ...) I just thought of something -- so, by the arguments presented declaring dragonwrought kobolds as "true dragons", that means that getting the materials for making dragonhide armor is now a whole lot easier and less dangerous (as a matter of fact, any hodge-podge group of basic warriors could do some serious mining). DRAGONHIDE
Armorsmiths can work with the hides of dragons to produce armor or shields of masterwork quality. and the MM specifically references the "special materials" section of the DMG just a thought. |
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If you stop ignoring 289 pages telling what the intent is to stretch "more power" in your own god complexion of your interpretation trumps all to cover ability adjustments from aging then I will ignore a quarter page of rules that exist within a sidebar.
I think in this case the grammar is less important than whether the Str and Dex bonus provided to your created undead scales.
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« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2010, 07:58:58 AM » |
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Yeah, but given that kobolds are small, and have slight build, you can only get enough hide for extremely tiny armor.
We're talking a hat for your familiar small.
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« Reply #90 on: January 28, 2010, 10:24:43 AM » |
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Yeah, but given that kobolds are small, and have slight build, you can only get enough hide for extremely tiny armor.
We're talking a hat for your familiar small.
that's why you get a whole platoon of them. or put them in breeding pits, and farm them. |
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If you stop ignoring 289 pages telling what the intent is to stretch "more power" in your own god complexion of your interpretation trumps all to cover ability adjustments from aging then I will ignore a quarter page of rules that exist within a sidebar.
I think in this case the grammar is less important than whether the Str and Dex bonus provided to your created undead scales.
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« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2010, 12:21:15 PM » |
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You kinda need a collosal dragon for a medium heavy armor, no ?
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« Reply #92 on: January 28, 2010, 01:56:16 PM » |
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You kinda need a collosal dragon for a medium heavy armor, no ?
well, to start with, the idea was stated tongue-in-cheek, based out of the silliness of my wandering, unoccupied mind. (I probably should have said so -- sorry) the idea that I was going from was perhaps: - 4 small creatures = 1 medium creatures - 4 medium = 1 large - ...... - 1024 small = 1 colossal you know, and patch it all together, or whatever. like I said, I was just being facetious. of course, I find the mechanics based around size categories to be a bit contrived at times. lets look at the dragonhide bit for a minute: - a colossal dragon could be used to make a single suit of half-plate for a single large creature; whether that creature is: --- a frost giant (15 feet tall, 2800 lbs) --or-- --- a minotaur (half as tall, and 1/4 the weight) go figure. given those dimensions, logic would dictate that it could make 1 suit for the frost giant or 2 suits for the minotaur. just an observation. |
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If you stop ignoring 289 pages telling what the intent is to stretch "more power" in your own god complexion of your interpretation trumps all to cover ability adjustments from aging then I will ignore a quarter page of rules that exist within a sidebar.
I think in this case the grammar is less important than whether the Str and Dex bonus provided to your created undead scales.
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« Reply #93 on: January 28, 2010, 02:18:26 PM » |
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Go buy Dragonhide armor then cast Resurrection on it.  |
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« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2010, 02:34:41 PM » |
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Go buy Dragonhide armor then cast Resurrection on it.  alright, my players are now banned from coming to this site. (especially the one who likes to take Mother Cyst) |
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If you stop ignoring 289 pages telling what the intent is to stretch "more power" in your own god complexion of your interpretation trumps all to cover ability adjustments from aging then I will ignore a quarter page of rules that exist within a sidebar.
I think in this case the grammar is less important than whether the Str and Dex bonus provided to your created undead scales.
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« Reply #95 on: January 28, 2010, 02:53:00 PM » |
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Go buy Dragonhide armor , hauntshift yourself into it, then cast Resurrection on it. fixed |
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« Reply #96 on: January 28, 2010, 03:05:41 PM » |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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« Reply #97 on: January 28, 2010, 03:48:29 PM » |
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Made a note for my Core only Cleric  |
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"Weakness? Come test thy mettle against me, hairless ape, and we shall know who is weak!" You caught a fish. It was awesome. |
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« Reply #98 on: January 30, 2010, 01:40:49 PM » |
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You know, people say that Dragonwrought kobolds were not meant to be true dragons saying that they dont fit in the dragon fluff and are not like dragons in general...
Then I realised that Dragonwrought kobolds have their maximum age increased depending on their heritage. X5 CHA mod for cromatic heritage and X10 CHA mod for metallic heritage.
Is this another nail in the "Was not meant to be a true dragon" coffin ?
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« Reply #99 on: January 30, 2010, 01:47:02 PM » |
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X5 CHA mod for cromatic heritage and X10 CHA mod for metallic heritage.
But but ... that's just the good looking ones. And some of them might live longer than true dragons, which means they cay-yant be real true dragons. |
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