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« Reply #860 on: June 12, 2010, 07:06:55 PM » |
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Yeah, that makes more sense. In this case, point B is right after the portal's creation, right?
But wait. If the elves in Myth Drannor had possession of the Lochnar, they would have used that instead to rewrite the story of the attack. Which means that the demons are more likely to have it.
You got it. As far as the Lochnar goes, though, it's entirely possible that neither of them have it. What was said, I think, is that records of its existence disappear after that battle, though. If one of the sides does have it, though, it's more likely to be the demons, or else the elves might not have failed. |
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« Reply #861 on: June 12, 2010, 07:43:06 PM » |
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Yeah, that makes more sense. In this case, point B is right after the portal's creation, right?
But wait. If the elves in Myth Drannor had possession of the Lochnar, they would have used that instead to rewrite the story of the attack. Which means that the demons are more likely to have it.
You got it. As far as the Lochnar goes, though, it's entirely possible that neither of them have it. What was said, I think, is that records of its existence disappear after that battle, though. If one of the sides does have it, though, it's more likely to be the demons, or else the elves might not have failed. It stands to reason that if a portal to go back to the battle exists, the elves would have attempted to gather another army or two to go through it, fully prepared. Which means that the only way the demons managed to keep up was them having the Lochnar. Of course, the Abyss has infinite layers, so theoretically their numbers would outpace the elves anyway, but one thing doesn't make much sense: assuming they have the Lochnar at that point in time, why do records of it disappear after the battle? Someone would've had to go through a lot of trouble to hide it. |
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« Reply #862 on: June 12, 2010, 08:42:17 PM » |
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Could be someone used its power to put an end to the battle once and for all. *shrug*
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« Reply #863 on: June 12, 2010, 09:13:20 PM » |
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one thing doesn't make much sense: assuming they have the Lochnar at that point in time, why do records of it disappear after the battle? Because that's when the PCs took it?  |
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« Reply #864 on: June 12, 2010, 09:39:41 PM » |
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That would mean Pun-Pun didn't exist. |
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« Reply #865 on: June 12, 2010, 09:54:31 PM » |
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That would mean Pun-Pun didn't exist. Or that we failed! Don't forget about the distinct possibility of failure!  |
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« Reply #866 on: June 12, 2010, 10:09:37 PM » |
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Well, I suppose I gotta keep some of what I know to myself.  : |
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« Reply #867 on: June 13, 2010, 01:56:44 AM » |
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It must be that the PC's get the Lochnar and one of them will reincarnate as a kobold.  |
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« Reply #868 on: June 13, 2010, 02:49:26 PM » |
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Don't look at me, I've already come back from the dead once. |
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« Reply #869 on: June 19, 2010, 02:43:14 AM » |
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Due to wealth. But I believe Phaedrus confirmed can be used for anything the tome version of wish can do. That would include inherent bonuses. So all the relevant numbers for each of X's minions have to be updated. |
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« Reply #870 on: June 19, 2010, 03:08:56 AM » |
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Are we adding all that stuff now? Or waiting until we make this deal?
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« Reply #871 on: June 19, 2010, 01:32:08 PM » |
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Are we adding all that stuff now? Or waiting until we make this deal?
It seems HoV has already decided, even if X hasn't yet. So where are you going? And how? Back through the Mucklestones? Teleporting? Other? |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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« Reply #872 on: June 19, 2010, 02:03:16 PM » |
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Are we adding all that stuff now? Or waiting until we make this deal?
It seems HoV has already decided, even if X hasn't yet. So where are you going? And how? Back through the Mucklestones? Teleporting? Other? Decided "For," then?  Anyway, I vote we all get in the hole and X teleports us out somewhere. Who knows if Phaedrus is planning to ambush us outside the stones for whatever reason (though if he's planning it, it'll probably happen no matter where we go  ) |
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« Reply #873 on: June 19, 2010, 02:43:22 PM » |
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I think the imp's presence is a deterrent.
Anyway, Raoul will jump into the pit last.
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« Reply #874 on: June 20, 2010, 03:12:14 PM » |
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Are we adding all that stuff now? Or waiting until we make this deal?
It seems HoV has already decided, even if X hasn't yet. So where are you going? And how? Back through the Mucklestones? Teleporting? Other? I thought that there was an OOC consensus on entering the wish economy now. Under normal circumstances, a deal with one of Dispater's minions (or D's minion's minions) would be a very bad way to do it. Especially if the deal seems too good to be true. But its very interesting from an OOC standpoint and the Dice Freaks version of infernal politics is one of the coolest things ever developed for 3.5 IMO. Now, it is safe to teleport out of the Underdark right? I'm thinking a random spot in the desert is probably best. Although a mountain top overlooking Myth Drannor would have a certain cinematic appeal. |
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« Reply #875 on: June 20, 2010, 03:21:48 PM » |
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Are we adding all that stuff now? Or waiting until we make this deal?
It seems HoV has already decided, even if X hasn't yet. So where are you going? And how? Back through the Mucklestones? Teleporting? Other? I thought that there was an OOC consensus on entering the wish economy now. Under normal circumstances, a deal with one of Dispater's minions (or D's minion's minions) would be a very bad way to do it. Especially if the deal seems too good to be true. But its very interesting from an OOC standpoint and the Dice Freaks version of infernal politics is one of the coolest things ever developed for 3.5 IMO. Now, it is safe to teleport out of the Underdark right? I'm thinking a random spot in the desert is probably best. Although a mountain top overlooking Myth Drannor would have a certain cinematic appeal. Yes, teleporting out is fine... it's teleporting into it or from one spot to the other in it that gets wonky. |
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« Reply #876 on: June 20, 2010, 03:24:47 PM » |
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Consider my vote cast for the lonely mountaintop overlooking the overrun Myth Drannor. Just because we can't see it doesn't mean we shouldn't make the visuals awesome. |
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« Reply #877 on: June 20, 2010, 05:48:07 PM » |
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Consider my vote cast for the lonely mountaintop overlooking the overrun Myth Drannor. Just because we can't see it doesn't mean we shouldn't make the visuals awesome. Well, you know... it's dark outside... So you probably won't see much, anyway. There is a mountain range between Aunaroch and Cormanthor forest, though. You might see some occasional flashes of light from Myth Drannor, which is 100-150 miles to the East. |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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« Reply #878 on: June 23, 2010, 05:41:27 PM » |
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Hmm, out of curiosity, what would the effect of a Monk's Belt be in conjunction with Tome Monk? Would my unarmed strike damage be that of a 5th level core monk, or would core and tome stack? Regardless, it'll get me a good AC bonus, at least, though again it depends on how it may or may not stack (only for the bonus ac, not the wis mod to ac, anyway).
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« Reply #879 on: June 23, 2010, 05:49:41 PM » |
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Oooh boy. Let's see. a Collar of Umbral Metamorphosis is a must, of course. Yay, HiPS! You hear that, Raoul? Check out RJ's HiPS.  I can only afford the 'lesser' one for now, but 10 minutes a day should be enough. Fun facts: A custom item of Darkness (not No Light) at will would be 12k. But it takes up an item slot, so I'm undecided since I already get it 3/day as a (Sp). Belt of Battle. Just Belt of Battle. So many choices... |
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