Off-topic chatter

[VennDygrem]

You know, I thought of adding sizing to the amulet of natural attacks, but figured it was so cheesy that Phaedrus would never in a million years allow it.

On the other hand, there are still a lot of other good enchantments I could add that would be at least slightly less cheesy but still awesome.
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I really hope Myth Weavers comes back soon. Most of my most recent changes are all on there rather than an offline sheet...  
Thank god for the mini sheet anyway.

[Kuroimaken]

Awww crap, then.

[VennDygrem]

Someone said they're just migrating servers, so it should all be back up tomorrow or so.

[PhaedrusXY]

Ok... waiting for that crap, I guess...

[Kuroimaken]

Taking longer than expected, though. I wonder.

[VennDygrem]

It's back up, guys. No need to pout.

[PhaedrusXY]

Don't worry. The game isn't going to be non-stop combat. It just makes the most sense to me for this guy to choose now as his time to attack you all. I'm going to assume that you all had time to do whatever you were doing in preparation to move on to your next destination, and you were basically ready to go.

[Agita]

"You really ought to get your facts straight. We aren't all evil here. We aren't here to subjugate the masses, exploit the weak, or any of that rubbish. If you leave us be, now, we'll be on our way, with no intent to harm the innocent nor disrupt the balance of nature."

...We're not?

[VennDygrem]

Well, I'm not. If I want to get you guys out of this too I guess I need to make a bluff check, then?

[PhaedrusXY]

Well, I'm not. If I want to get you guys out of this too I guess I need to make a bluff check, then?

Nah, you said we're not all evil, which is true.

[VennDygrem]

Decided to change where the sound is coming from?

Anyway, this should be interesting. It's not every day I fight a giant Barghest AND a being made of wind and mystery.

[Agita]

Want to get a betting pool going? I'll put my imaginary money on some kind of Air Elemental, or a Druid in elemental form.
In the latter case, we might want to run. 

[PhaedrusXY]

Decided to change where the sound is coming from?

I don't know what you're talking about. 

Anyway, this should be interesting. It's not every day I fight a giant Barghest AND a being made of wind and mystery.

All in a day's work, eh?


I forgot to mention this, but a Spellcraft check (DC 22, Whispering Wind) might be in order to try and ID the whirlwind.

[VennDygrem]

Does the whirlwind thingy not respond to my diplomacy attempt, or at least to my words?

[PhaedrusXY]

Does the whirlwind thingy not respond to my diplomacy attempt, or at least to my words?

It normally takes 1 minute to make a diplomacy check. If you rush it (or bind naberius, or whatever...) you can do it as a standard action. Rushing gives you a -10 penalty. So assuming you're rushing, no there is no response. If you're not rushing... well... you'll have to stand there and hope he listens to you for 10 rounds.  

Interestingly enough, Intimidate when used as pseudo-diplomacy (as Xuuvosic did with the barghest) actually works a lot better for diplomacy, because you can do it as a standard action. It doesn't last as long, though. You can intimidate someone to back down from fighting you a lot better than you can talk them out of it diplomatically, which I guess makes a certain amount of sense...

Diplomacy should come in handy for other parts of the campaign, but unless you're a binder or something it generally isn't going to talk you out of impending or active combat.

If you offered some kind of fantastic deal, though, that would counter the -10 for hurrying. From the Diplomacy rules I'm using:

-10 Fantastic: The reward for accepting the deal is very worthwhile, and the risk is either acceptable or extremely unlikely. The best-case scenario is a virtual guarantee. Example: An offer to pay a lot of gold for something of no value to the subject, such as information that is not a secret.

[VennDygrem]

I see. I don't generally use diplomacy much, as you might gather. Still, I'd have figured it would have at least responded to my words, thus allowing me to tell whether it's worth taking the rest of the time to sit there chatting with it and bargaining. The reason it usually takes that long is because a conversation is taking place. You don't say one thing, wait for one minute in silence, and then get a positive or negative response.

Due to the nature of the situation I guess I've got no choice but to ignore the diplomacy attempt. It's not as though my teammate, who has gleaned extra information that I don't know, has told me anything that would lead me to believe that the creature has any intention to not attack. In fact, it's been rather quiet here lately. >_>

[PhaedrusXY]

Heheh. Yeah, sorry about the diplomacy thing. I don't want you to feel like it is worthless, but at the same time I don't want to power it up even more than it already is... It should be useful for other things in the game, I can assure you. Just not trying to talk down some guy who's already stated that he's here to kill you. As far as Marlowe... well, what he communicates is up to him. 

[PhaedrusXY]

Agita's turn.

[VennDygrem]

When this is done I want to know what just hit us.

[Agita]

Probably some kind of metamagic'd Chain Lightning to deal half untyped damage.

Does anyone have Heroics or something else that can temporarily grant a Fighter feat? I have an idea, but it probably won't work.