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« Reply #1020 on: February 11, 2009, 01:10:27 PM »

As a little hint, Heroism gives morale bonus to skill checks, something that Bowen, I believe, has not used so far. It's a small amount, but definitely better than nothing.

And remember where I live. Right next to the former Soviet Russia, the country where campaign breaks you.
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« Reply #1021 on: February 11, 2009, 01:15:18 PM »

Yeah, about that. At what point would we be pushing it with crafting our own shit?

You already okay'd the DMG rules about race/class/skill specific stuff, but what about stuff like:
-Soul harvesting
-Getting a homunculus to do the crafting
-The above, but in a planar bubble
-Etc. etc.


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« Reply #1022 on: February 11, 2009, 01:19:13 PM »

And remember where I live. Right next to the former Soviet Russia, the country where campaign breaks you.



One of the vestiges Gabriel can bind is the remnant of a former Lord of the Nine (Geryon). He was loyal to Asmodeus in the first battle with Lucifer, but in the end Asmodeus ate his soul instead of rewarding him, or something like that. Another is a demon lord (Astaroth) that acted as a spy in Hell, and was killed while right in the middle of ascending to godhood (by Gargauth, who was I think another Lot9, and who became a deity afterwards). I'm thinking those guys might have some useful info for us, but in the Tome of Magic it says that vestiges aren't reliable sources of info. Still, I thought it was kind of cool, when I was looking through the info on them.
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« Reply #1023 on: February 11, 2009, 01:34:14 PM »

And Dispater is not a deity and thus has no favourite weapon.
So how would Divine Retaliation (PHB2) work for Talsor? Do I choose a god to steal it from? So I just get an alignment based weapon?
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« Reply #1024 on: February 11, 2009, 02:17:43 PM »

Well, technically speaking, all those who worship Hell or a Lord of the Nine will gain their spells from Asmodeus. As such, you'd probably use Asmodeus' favourite weapon, which is heavy mace.

PhaedrusXY: Your fluff is probably that of WotC's own, so I'll fix the few facts that were mistakes in regards to Dicefreaks.

Geryon indeed was the former Lord of the Fifth. This son of Aesmadeva and Tiamat served as a Duke under Leviathan's rule during the Days of Antiquity (Lucifer's rule). When Leviathan tried to extract information from Bensozia, Asmodeus' wife, Geryon blew his horn alerting Asmodeus who saw her dead wife and imprisoned Leviathan to the ice cube he still is in. Then Geryon was made a Lord. His blind loyalty to Asmodeus was rewarded in a way unique to Hell, he was stripped of his position after the events of Dice Irae. Leviathan was reinstated and he is now searching for the exiled archdevil.

Astaroth was never a demon. He was one of the eight malefircareim Lucifer granted Lordship when he conquered Hell, he became the Lord of the First. Later he started looking for ways to gain divinity and he decided that plotting against Lucifer and failing miserably would lead to his exile, not death. He allied with Asmodeus, who outwitted him and gained the Serpent Throne and, indeed, exiled him. Astaroth changed his name to Garhauth, moved to Abeir-Toril and eventually gained divinity (DvR 5) from Ao. No-one but Ao, Asmodeus, Tiamat (who got in power after Astaroth) and the original Lords (Leviathan, Dispater, Mammon, Sammael, Mephistopheles, Adrammalek and Lilith) know Gargauth's true origins.

Feel free to use Geryon's vestige powers though.
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« Reply #1025 on: February 11, 2009, 02:52:27 PM »

Ok, Tshern. So neither of those would be a vestige in your campaign? But I could use their powers, and maybe reflavor their origin or something? Or would I still draw power from the actual Geryon of your campaign as a vestige?

There are a couple of vestiges called Astaroth that are in different sources. One of these is supposedly a fallen angel, and the other was the "demon lord" I already mentioned, which is actually Garhauth in your game. Maybe we should rename one or both... I could PM you a pdf with the vestiges outside of Tome of Magic in it, if you're interested. It has both of the Astaroths in there.

Just for reference, here are brief descriptions of the abilities of the vestiges I'm likely to use. The stuff in parenthesis is a brief description of the influences they'll have on me while bound (the physical stuff is automatic; the mental stuff after the semi-colon is only if I fail the binding check). I also put brief explanations of who they are in parenthesis for some of them (Geryon and the two Astaroths). Several of these are powerful demons that are imprisoned in a part of the abyss called the Wells of Darkness. I think this is from the Savage Tides adventure path (Dragon 357). I'll mark them with an asterisk. From their descriptions, I wonder if they didn't accidentally put the Divination power under Astaroth instead of Cabiri, since Cabiri is all about scrying and divination. I plan to keep Balam bound pretty much all the time, and bind the others as needed (it only takes a minute or two to bind one, but it is alot trickier to "unbind" them).

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Acerak (gem tooth; must grab for power): Detect & Hide from Undead, Immunity to cold and electricity, Paralyzing Touch (Fort DC 19 each round, 5 rounds), Speak with Dead (at will, DC 19)

Astaroth (fallen angel)(stench, yellowed skin): http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070307a
Bardic Knowledge, Stinking Cloud breath; +4 Dipl, Bluff, and Intimidate; all crafting feats if I meet prereqs, Suggestion 1/5 rnds

Astaroth* (demon lord)(stench, cloudy eyes; MUST ATTACK DEVILS): Blackflame (fire damage is half vile), Divination (as spell, CL=EBL), +4 bluff and disguise vs evil outsiders, attacks count as silver

Ahazu* (void mouth; kleptomaniac): Blindsight (5 ft/EBL)!, Ahazu's Abduction (remove enemy from play for 1 round, at will, Will negates), Unholy Blight touch 1/5 rnds, Void Mind (Mindblank + immunity to soulbind, magic jar, etc)

Balam (hollow, guttural voice; hates clerics): reroll an attack, save, or skill check once every 5 rounds; 2d6 cold gaze (will negates); Prescience (+1/4lvls insight to Ref, AC, and Initiative); Weapon Finesse

Buer (hooves; forgetful, hates to kill): healing touch, fast healing, disease and poison immunity (30 foot RADIUS), Track, +4 Know (nature, untrained), +4 survival

Cabiri*  (Dragon 357)(third eye; wants to see everything) - Arcane Eye (as spell, 1 sensor, at will), Far-seeing Gaze (+10 Scrying DCs), Seer in Darkness (add 60 ft to darkvision range, gain low-light vision), Visons of Terror (Phantasmal Killer 3/day); +4 insight vs figments, -4 vs patterns, cannot avert eyes from Gaze attack

Dantalion (face on torso; must read thoughts of leaders): Sanctuary, Read Thoughts, teleport 50' 1/5 rnds, +8 knowledge

Geryon (eyes around head; become overly trusting)(former Lord of the 9): +4 spot and search, swift fly 60' 1/5 rnds, see in darkness, all-around-vision, acidic gaze (30', 2d6, will negates)

Malphas (black teeth and tongue; overly romantic, must use poison if possible): Move action invisibility, summon dove/raven, Poison Use, Sudden Strike (3d6)

Naberius (gravelly voice; loves to give speeches): take 10 bluff and dipl, rushed, Command (as spell), heal ability damage 1/round, Disguise Self at will, gain use of (Con mod) trained-only skills you have no ranks in

Otiax (blue fog; nervous around closed doors and must open locks): Combat Reflexes, Concealing Mist (personal concealment), Open Portal (swift action), Unlock (up to DC 20), Air Blast (2d6 touch attack, 10 ft range)

Paimon (stretched mouth; lascivious and bold, must dance if hear music): Whirlwind Attack, pseudo-dervish dance, +4 dex, tumble +4
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Sorry for all the questions. I do think these could add an interesting dimension to the game, though, and want to get the flavor right for your campaign. I don't want to take away from your posting to the main thread, though. Big Grin
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« Reply #1026 on: February 11, 2009, 02:57:47 PM »

Heavy mace works for me. Nice large heavy mace that punches people when they hit me. Big Grin
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« Reply #1027 on: February 11, 2009, 04:27:05 PM »

Feel free to use those as vestiges, they are in the book, so I don't mind. Just that their fluff won't be the same. And please send the vestiges.
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« Reply #1028 on: February 11, 2009, 05:13:52 PM »

Feel free to use those as vestiges, they are in the book, so I don't mind. Just that their fluff won't be the same. And please send the vestiges.
Sent to your WotC account.
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« Reply #1029 on: February 12, 2009, 09:46:48 AM »

is there a online preview of Incantatrix somewhere?
I don't have Player's Guide to Faerun, and it sounds so nice...
Just want to know what he can do...
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« Reply #1030 on: February 12, 2009, 10:05:49 AM »

I can Persist my own spells and those cast by other party members without an increase in spell slot level as long as I can make a rather high Spellcraft check. Aside from that some bonus metamagic feats and -1 metamagic cost at level 10 and some metamagic spell trigger stuff.

No online versions though as far as I know. But I copied a description of my class abilities so far to my character sheet, that should give you a basic idea.
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« Reply #1031 on: February 12, 2009, 10:12:08 AM »

yeah, well, the thing is that I want to use it in another adventure...

Maybe you can PM it to me if that is okay?
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« Reply #1032 on: February 12, 2009, 10:18:12 AM »

You could download the book?

I'm AFB right now, so I can't help you at the moment...
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« Reply #1033 on: February 12, 2009, 10:24:24 AM »

maybe that, but this PC is not that good at downloading...

The one that is good is in another part of the country, because it is at my father's house...
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« Reply #1034 on: February 12, 2009, 10:46:44 AM »

I downloaded it...
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« Reply #1035 on: February 12, 2009, 04:57:26 PM »

No you didn't, your friend just happened to acquire a book that had Incantatrix in it and borrowed it to you.
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« Reply #1036 on: February 12, 2009, 05:20:15 PM »

And now when I am here, please ask ANYTHING that is bothering you about the fluff or if you are just interested. Former Lords of the Nine in order, why were they dethroned or whatever. Really, I'd like you to know all the fluff you want to know and this is easily the best way to do it.

Edit: Own thread for that.
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« Reply #1037 on: February 12, 2009, 05:40:03 PM »

So if Phaedrus fails his binding checks on the bolded vestiges he will give a long speech while poisoning my drink?
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« Reply #1038 on: February 12, 2009, 05:57:10 PM »

Yeah. Be immune.
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« Reply #1039 on: February 13, 2009, 03:38:39 PM »

Yes! Finally it seems like I am going to be with the group soon Big Grin

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