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« Reply #1000 on: February 10, 2009, 05:15:54 PM » |
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Phaedrus do you still have consumptive field? I'm wondering if I should get Bowen to persist it, or if I should keep my delay death as an emergency backup?
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« Reply #1001 on: February 10, 2009, 05:20:16 PM » |
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I could go with either one, but if you're still using consumptive, I'm not sure if I should keep Delay death. On the one hand, it's a nice save, but it's also negated when consumptive eats them anyways... It'd probably be nicer for both of us to have consumptive field, that way our enemies have double the chance to die. After talking with SDK, I'm thinking of something for Invisibility Purge. Is anyone against that? Also, Bowen, think you can persist those two for me in the morning.  |
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« Reply #1002 on: February 10, 2009, 05:24:46 PM » |
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I have Invisibility Purge prepped, but don't want to persist it, as I might actually use Invisibility sometimes via a bound vestige. I guess I could stay away from you, if you persist it.  Mythweavers is doing something wonky.... I had it eat a character sheet of mine once when it was doing this... |
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« Reply #1003 on: February 10, 2009, 05:25:26 PM » |
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Fair enough. I won't persist it than |
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« Reply #1004 on: February 10, 2009, 05:41:16 PM » |
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Actually... go ahead, unless you guys plan to use something like Circle of Invisibility, or something. I won't be standing right next to you when scouting, and that's probably when I'll use that ability. That will free up a 3rd level slot for me, too.  |
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« Reply #1005 on: February 10, 2009, 05:45:22 PM » |
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Oh my wow, I log off for a couple hours and there's a whole new page already. I freakin love the harvesting souls thing. I don't even care about the XP for crafting, I just really want to make that my new line of work.
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« Reply #1006 on: February 10, 2009, 06:03:20 PM » |
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Oh my wow, I log off for a couple hours and there's a whole new page already. I freakin love the harvesting souls thing. I don't even care about the XP for crafting, I just really want to make that my new line of work.
 Did you read my character's backstory? See all those self-crafted magic items on his sheet? That basically was his line of work, prior to joining you guys. I see Perception on Dariedor's sheet, instead of Spot/Listen. Are we using some kind of modified rules for skills? |
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« Reply #1007 on: February 10, 2009, 06:22:45 PM » |
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Actually... go ahead, unless you guys plan to use something like Circle of Invisibility, or something. I won't be standing right next to you when scouting, and that's probably when I'll use that ability. That will free up a 3rd level slot for me, too. All righty then, I will. Assuming Bowen's okay with giving me two more persists. |
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« Reply #1008 on: February 11, 2009, 03:13:25 AM » |
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Good luck getting the downtime for crafting all the items, I'd assume you will be busy. Very busy.
And Dispater is not a deity and thus has no favourite weapon.
Adding Consumptive field to the abuse list. Let's see how the next opponent you face looks like.
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« Reply #1009 on: February 11, 2009, 04:14:14 AM » |
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No abusing if the DM okay'ed it I don't see where anyone used it, though... Not for initial gear, he only okay'ed it for actual in campaign crafting and the like IIRC |
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« Reply #1010 on: February 11, 2009, 04:17:10 AM » |
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I hate you, Tshern... We'll just need to buy them that way then Anywho, I don't persisting more stuff AC, I'll scratch 2 more uses  9/12 remaining |
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« Reply #1011 on: February 11, 2009, 06:09:05 AM » |
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Oh my wow, I log off for a couple hours and there's a whole new page already. I freakin love the harvesting souls thing. I don't even care about the XP for crafting, I just really want to make that my new line of work.
Did you read my character's backstory? See all those self-crafted magic items on his sheet? That basically was his line of work, prior to joining you guys. I see Perception on Dariedor's sheet, instead of Spot/Listen. Are we using some kind of modified rules for skills? Spellcraft + Psicraft Spot + Listen = Perception UMD + UPD Hide + MS = Stealth |
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« Reply #1012 on: February 11, 2009, 09:56:09 AM » |
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UMD+UPD=Command supernatural device. Feel free to mark it under UMD though, that's just fine.
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« Reply #1013 on: February 11, 2009, 12:01:17 PM » |
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Anywho, I don't persisting more stuff AC, I'll scratch 2 more uses 9/12 remaining You have two abilities that can do this, it looks like (Cooperative Spellcasting and Metamagic Effect). So that should be like 21/24 left, right? On the combined skills, how do you handle things that give a bonus to one but not the other? For example, the Eyes of the Avoral spell adds a +8 racial bonus to Spot. Would that now add to perception? Would it get the whole bonus? If you guys want to do the crafting stuff, I can get a Dedicated Wright and leave it in the Enveloping Pit all the time crafting stuff. We could even do the cheese I mentioned earlier to speed up time (Planar Bubble of the Far Realm)... but I really don't want to see that used against us in more abusive ways (like a wizard who steps into this kind of Planar Bubble to sleep and prepare spells instantaneously...). I could actually get 8 hours of "free" time per day by abusing this with my current setup, if we could get our hands on a native of the Far Plane for that length of time. I don't see how we could use the Summon Monster + Sculpt Spell trick, though, unless Bowen could use his Incantatrix trix for that. By the way, I noticed that Guidance of the Avatar has range touch. So I could give you a +20 Competence bonus to Spellcraft for using that on particularly difficult checks. I don't remember how long ritual sacrifices take, either. We'd need time for that too, if we want to get the "free" XP. |
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« Reply #1014 on: February 11, 2009, 12:12:49 PM » |
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It all depends on what Tshern deems too abusive and would use against us, as far as I'm concerned As for the Incantatrix abilities, one only affects me, the other only affects allied casters |
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« Reply #1015 on: February 11, 2009, 12:33:13 PM » |
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As for the Incantatrix abilities, one only affects me, the other only affects allied casters -Metamagic Effect: Apply a metamagic feat to a persistent spell effect that is already in place. The Incantatrix must be adjacent to or within the spell effect and make a succesful Spellcraft check (DC 18 + [3 x modified spell level]). This ability is usable 3 + Int modifier times per day. I don't see any such limitation, at least in the text you have in your character sheet. It even says you can be adjacent to the effect, which would definitely include something other than a personal buff, unless there is something more specific written elsewhere that contradicts that. Also... unless you already have something granting a competence bonus to Spellcraft, I think you could actually Persist up to 9th level spells if AC or I hit you up with a Guidance of the Avatar... (DC = 18 +(3x15) = 63. GotA adds +20, and you have +46 already). That's pretty crazy... |
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« Reply #1016 on: February 11, 2009, 12:36:49 PM » |
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need to get a far realms native? Well I'm a warlock, so I have insider knowledge of the world of the occult...and that includes Alienists...who have pseudonatural familiars. Can we say Great Familiar Hunt? |
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It always seems like the barrels around here have something in them.
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« Reply #1017 on: February 11, 2009, 12:42:02 PM » |
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Heh, never noticed that before. Thanks Phaedrus And yes, I've currently got a +5 Competence item IIRC. Gonna upgrade that as soon as I have the cash |
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« Reply #1018 on: February 11, 2009, 12:58:36 PM » |
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Heh, never noticed that before. Thanks Phaedrus And yes, I've currently got a +5 Competence item IIRC. Gonna upgrade that as soon as I have the cash NP. With your abilities, there is hardly any reason for the rest of us to even have the Persistent Spell feat.  So, even with the bonus overlap, you'd still be able to Persist 9th level spells most of the time, and 7th (the max anyone can currently cast, I think) would be no problem at all. need to get a far realms native? Well I'm a warlock, so I have insider knowledge of the world of the occult...and that includes Alienists...who have pseudonatural familiars. Can we say Great Familiar Hunt? I don't know if we actually want to abuse this... We could, but it is kind of asking for it, I think. If Tshern has NPCs use it for something other than speeding up crafting, it could turn into an arms race. I mean, we're kind of getting into No-Ship/Terminator/Pun-Pun territory here, dabbling with the far realm and planar bubbles outside of time. It might be fun, but I don't want to break the campaign... So maybe I should just get the crafting golem, and we'll just let him work on stuff while we adventure? Or we could try to come up with a less abusive way to speed up crafting... |
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« Reply #1019 on: February 11, 2009, 01:03:13 PM » |
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The abuse list is probably big enough already, so I don't want Tshren to drown in it Agreed? |
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