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« Reply #80 on: June 15, 2008, 05:35:53 PM » |
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Edit: Should I make my character sheet as if I was already attuned to an ancient technique? An era (one I can attune it by taking ten)?
Saying no would be like saying the fighter cant start with his armor on, wouldnt it? 
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« Reply #81 on: June 15, 2008, 05:54:33 PM » |
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In that scenario, Roy would probably be the martyr mole's partner/bodyguard. Or a second mole/sleeper agent unawares of the first. Can I be Leonardo DiCaprio? And good point Alis, I just didn't want to 'do it wrong.'
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« Reply #82 on: June 16, 2008, 07:05:40 AM » |
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Alis's idea works for me, unless someone makes up a better one.
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« Reply #83 on: June 16, 2008, 07:26:25 AM » |
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How about just a source of power we all wish to find? This gives a reason some of the neutral & good characters would be involved. Maybe an artifact or temporal/ritual power booster.
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« Reply #84 on: June 16, 2008, 07:34:59 AM » |
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There are three ritual artefacts. Look in Book 4/Blood and Wine. Two of the three are major artefacts, and would make a fairly good quest reward, at about level 17  . One is for Ritualists/Rit Warriors. The other is all about the Martyr. There's also a minor artefact for ritualist/martyrs.
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« Reply #85 on: June 16, 2008, 11:26:52 PM » |
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I'm finalizing the sheet now and I have to ask, are Martyrs proficient with any armor? It doesn't say one way or the other in the entry.
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« Reply #86 on: June 17, 2008, 06:18:51 AM » |
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There are three ritual artefacts. Look in Book 4/Blood and Wine. Two of the three are major artefacts, and would make a fairly good quest reward, at about level 17  . One is for Ritualists/Rit Warriors. The other is all about the Martyr. There's also a minor artefact for ritualist/martyrs. Riffing on one of the artifacts, maybe it was owned by a civilisation lost in the annals of the past. The Ritual characters want the artifact, the temporal characters want access of the lore/slices of that civilisation.
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"No, no, don't think, Maya." Ritsuko chided. "We will not gattai the Evas or their pilots.
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« Reply #87 on: June 17, 2008, 07:06:58 AM » |
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I'm finalizing the sheet now and I have to ask, are Martyrs proficient with any armor? It doesn't say one way or the other in the entry.
If it doesn't have it, then no, they are not. These are always open to changing. There are three ritual artefacts. Look in Book 4/Blood and Wine. Two of the three are major artefacts, and would make a fairly good quest reward, at about level 17  . One is for Ritualists/Rit Warriors. The other is all about the Martyr. There's also a minor artefact for ritualist/martyrs. Riffing on one of the artifacts, maybe it was owned by a civilisation lost in the annals of the past. The Ritual characters want the artifact, the temporal characters want access of the lore/slices of that civilisation. That works for me, I know my character would love to get his hands on that sort of power. And if a historian isn't going totally gaga over lost civilization lore then he's not doing it right 
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« Reply #88 on: June 17, 2008, 07:21:48 AM » |
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Hows that sound gang? Now we just need a good name. The Venerable Seekers of the Lost a.k.a. We're Lost is my pitch 
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« Reply #89 on: June 17, 2008, 07:25:01 AM » |
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The Bloody Delvers? 
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« Reply #90 on: June 17, 2008, 07:32:19 AM » |
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The Bloody Delvers?  Forgive me my friend, but it sounds like we're (hidden for possible offensive sexism) I'd laugh evertime we introduced ourselves.
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« Reply #91 on: June 17, 2008, 07:56:58 AM » |
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It's hardly meant to be a serious name, now is it?  (Lore) (Seekers) of the Blessed {Life}{Blood} is another. Of course, there's always the "Hey, You!"
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« Reply #92 on: June 18, 2008, 05:19:44 PM » |
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Strat, a few more questions  1) I haven't been able to find duration on most of the seeds. 1 rd/spell point sounds good for most uses, byt some of the mind affecting stuff & buffs would have to be cranked up. 2) Can we take a 20 to attune ourselves to an era? 3) I know seeds and era's can't be effected or modified by non-temporal feats but can they be used to qualify for feats? ex. Feat has an unspecified range touch attack that deals ice damage as a prerequisite. If you have the right magical seed to do it, do you qualify?
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« Reply #93 on: June 18, 2008, 05:36:58 PM » |
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Duration is in the first post on spell seeds.
Take 10, max.
Spellcasting and such granted by the Historian does not qualify for normal spellcasting requirements.
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« Reply #94 on: June 18, 2008, 05:53:54 PM » |
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Duration is in the first post on spell seeds.
Take 10, max.
Spellcasting and such granted by the Historian does not qualify for normal spellcasting requirements.
I'll look for it again. Alright. I'm not talking about spellcasting, just for generic requirements. For instance if I had Warping Form: Your body writhes and contorts, assuming the form of another creature of similar size. You may Alter Self into a creature with hit dice equal to 1 per 2 spell points. Lets say theres a feat that requires the ability to cast Alter Self, an alternate from of the shapeshifter subtype, would I qualify. Says nothing about the source of the power, nor does it specify spell, spelllike, SU, innate, anything, just that you can cast it. Still wouldn't work?
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« Reply #95 on: June 18, 2008, 05:56:19 PM » |
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My understanding is that it works as long as you retain the ability that qualified you for the feat.
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« Reply #96 on: June 18, 2008, 06:07:01 PM » |
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My understanding is that it works as long as you retain the ability that qualified you for the feat.
Thats what I think too, but gotta check when we're playtesting. I notice Strats been pretty clever by giving the mechanical functions of pounce, trample and flurry for some things, but never using that name.
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« Reply #97 on: June 18, 2008, 06:16:27 PM » |
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Despite how they function, seeds do not qualify you for being able to cast specific spells. Basically, all the use of spell names is is me being lazy, rather than copying over text from an existent spell. If you prefer, I can just change all of those "As per spell X" into the full text of spell X 
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« Reply #98 on: June 18, 2008, 06:37:22 PM » |
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Despite how they function, seeds do not qualify you for being able to cast specific spells. Basically, all the use of spell names is is me being lazy, rather than copying over text from an existent spell. If you prefer, I can just change all of those "As per spell X" into the full text of spell X  We could never interfere with good honest lazy. 
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« Reply #99 on: June 19, 2008, 04:41:54 PM » |
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Strat, another Hstorian question! This one's about Totem Charge/Totem Grapple. Are the animals you can Wild Shape into restricted by Historian HD in the same way normal Wild Shape is restricted by Druid HD?
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Currently playing: Forte Lulz, Chaotic EVIL Bard bent on world domination; Canere Potentia, to sing of power.Aralaxax, Warforged Osteomancer, Machines are my people, I wield bones as other wield swords.Randall Gray, she's not sexually confused, honest!Zion "I can make followers, but why bother when people line up for me?"Currently DMing: Real Men Use Their Hands, World's Largest Dungeon "If you can pretend to be a half-orc barbarian or a dwarf wizard then you can pretend to be an alpha male."-Ninjarabbit "The hotel shop only had two decent books, and I'd written both of them."-Douglas Adams " It's funny how the Earth never opens up and swallows you when you want it to." Xander Harris, Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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