Tarrasque Extermination Force

[AfterCrescent]

I defer to SDK's judgment for psionics. We're going to get rid of recharge setups as a whole. The point of a gauntlet is resource management, and that kind of defeats the purpose.

And after talking to SDK, we're not going to ban Mental Pinnacle, but any PP granted by the spell evaporate at the end of its duration, even if transferred to another entity via Bestow Power or some-such. I'm not opposed to one of you giving up resources to grant another temporary resources, but you'll have to do it in-party. There's no "finding someone with Bestow Power".

Cohorts are getting the ban-hammer. Only pets from class features can be used in the gauntlet. Note: Anything with class levels is not a pet.

In regards to stoning, if you turn the Tarrasque into an object, somehow, it won't have regeneration, but you'll still have to do the appropriate damage to the object in order for the cube to work. So if you turn it to stone and then do HP+10 damage (beyond the 8 hardness of stone) you can use the cube. Makes your job a bit easier on the resources, I suppose.

Yes, Bowen, it works for an Ur-Priest as well. It's a feat to replace the optional spell research (which we obviously won't have time for) and that works on Wizards and Clerics, so it'll work on Ur-Priests, too.

bogsnes - I'm going to be lazy and not read all that. If you want a homebrew class, make one and we'll take a look at it.

Bowen, yes I'll reconsider it. Let me do some research and get back to you. Suzerain's answer isn't really useful since "itemless" means nothing. But I'm not convinced one way or the other, so I'll see what I can dig up.

[PhaedrusXY]

Not that it will matter much, but...

Do psicrystals gain feats?

What's their BAB?

How do you replace them if they die?

 

[AfterCrescent]

Yes.

A psicrystal’s characteristics depend on its master. Its Hit Dice are equal to its master’s Hit Dice (counting only levels in psion or wilder), its hit points are equal to half its master’s, and its saving throw bonuses are the same as its master’s.

It's a construct, so its BAB is appropriate for a construct.

You replace them with 24 hours of meditation, just like druids & sorcerers. i.e. don't let it die.

[PhaedrusXY]

Yes.

A psicrystal’s characteristics depend on its master. Its Hit Dice are equal to its master’s Hit Dice (counting only levels in psion or wilder), its hit points are equal to half its master’s, and its saving throw bonuses are the same as its master’s.

It's a construct, so its BAB is appropriate for a construct.

You replace them with 24 hours of meditation, just like druids & sorcerers. i.e. don't let it die.

Uhh... druids get theirs back for free within 24 hrs. Sorcerers have to wait a freakin' year, and lose a boatload of XP. So I guess it is like the druid, then? 

Also, the underlined part contradicts the description in the psion class writeup.

Psicrystal abilities are based on the owner’s levels in psionic classes.

Yes, I know what you posted agrees with the Psicrystal monster writeup. I just don't think that's fair, seeing how psionics have to burn a feat to get a psicrystal, and arcane casters that get a familiar via Obtain Familiar base the abilities of the familiar on their caster level.

Also, according to that if an Ardent/Psiwarrior/Soulknife/etc takes Psicrystal Affinity, they get one with no hit dice. 

I won't complain any more, though. I know I'm being a pain in the ass with these questions, but they kind of have to be asked...

[AfterCrescent]

But Sorcs still have to do something for 24 hours. There's no mention of XP loss and time waiting, so you don't have to do that. But it will take 24 hours of do-nothing-ness (druids have to pray, you have to meditate, sorcs have to do something ).

Lol, I'm going with the class write-up:

Psicrystal abilities are based on the owner’s levels in psionic classes.

Not specifically psion or wilder.

[Surreal]

Anyone got a 25HD or less form with Strength higher than 48?

Or some way to a get Luck/Insight/Sacred/Profane/Unnamed/some other kind of obscure bonus on Grapple checks?
I've already got BAB, size, Str, Competence and some unnamed stuff.

The darktentacles from MM2 has a +16 racial bonus, but it's only a large creature with 19 Str. Now if you could steal that racial bonus somehow...

Girallon soulmeld adds on a competence bonus (at 2 + 2/essentia), but without totemist levels that's a rather feat heavy investment.

[woodenbandman]

If I werent' so aversed to PBP I'd play that build I tossed up a while ago that can make the Tarrasque go to sleep for a little over 4 minutes with a single full attack.

[PhoenixInferno]

I feel puny here, since I've been playing a lot of 4E...I was just thinking something like Warblade/Eternal Blade for 3 standard actions + Stormguard Warrior...doesn't seem enough - gotta break that DR 15/epic somehow...

[AfterCrescent]

Expensive weapon + Greater Magic Weapon?

[Midnight_v]

I feel puny here, since I've been playing a lot of 4E...I was just thinking something like Warblade/Eternal Blade for 3 standard actions + Stormguard Warrior...doesn't seem enough - gotta break that DR 15/epic somehow...

Don't warblades have like a million strikes that just ignore damage reduction?

I see a lot of dude coming down trying to grapple the tarrasque.
If me and bowen are in the same group and both try to grapple it "together" does anyone know how that works?

Bowen we should compare notes.

[PhoenixInferno]

Don't warblades have like a million strikes that just ignore damage reduction?

Yeah, Stone Dragon strikes - but they don't get the damage output of a tricked out Stormguard Warrior + Avalanche of Blades.  The thing's touch AC is frickin' 5.

[Alastar]

Hey, is there a second group for this.  I could be interested

Thinking of something simple.

Like a lvl 20 artificier.

[Risada]

There's you going for whatever you're going for, Vinom for some sort of melee character, me with some sort of caster (role undecided), and bkdubs with his buffer gish.

In addition to those options, and I am tempted to go dragonfire bardsomething... anything that favor Crusader over Warblade and vice versa?

Don't warblades have like a million strikes that just ignore damage reduction?

Yeah, Stone Dragon strikes - but they don't get the damage output of a tricked out Stormguard Warrior + Avalanche of Blades.  The thing's touch AC is frickin' 5.

Just nab as much bonuses to hit as you can afford and you're set... things like a single level of Factotum + Able Learner + Knowledge Devotion, discipline weapons.... you know.... the usual stuff 

Hey, is there a second group for this.  I could be interested

Thinking of something simple.

Like a lvl 20 artificier blastificer of DOOM.

Fixed 

[PhoenixInferno]

Is there a way to make nat 1's not be auto-misses?

[AfterCrescent]

Alastar, There's only one 'formed' group right now. Any 4 people that want to make a group and build characters is good by me. Just make sure you're all up for the challenge.

[PhaedrusXY]

I feel puny here, since I've been playing a lot of 4E...I was just thinking something like Warblade/Eternal Blade for 3 standard actions + Stormguard Warrior...doesn't seem enough - gotta break that DR 15/epic somehow...

Greater Magic Weapon on a +1 Tarrasque-bane weapon.

[Alastar]

Who wants to be on Alastar the crafty's group ? (Bufficier)

[PhaedrusXY]

Who wants to be on Alastar the crafty's group ? (Bufficier)

I'm all for it... if we can call it Team Alpha Strike!

I was thinking of cranking out multiple Save or Dies per round, but it might be easier to just go with damage... Wraithstrike should work well against the big meatbag.

It may take me a while to find the time to actually put together a character, though...

[AfterCrescent]

Teaser Alert: SDK & I finished 'fixing' the feats for the standard tarrasque that will be used in each team's test run. Mind you each Tarrasque beyond this will be more difficult.

Want to see it? We'll show the team before they face it.

[BowenSilverclaw]

Hell yes

If me and bowen are in the same group and both try to grapple it "together" does anyone know how that works?

Bowen we should compare notes.

I'll get a basic build up somewhere tomorrow.

Anyone got a 25HD or less form with Strength higher than 48?

Or some way to a get Luck/Insight/Sacred/Profane/Unnamed/some other kind of obscure bonus on Grapple checks?
I've already got BAB, size, Str, Competence and some unnamed stuff.

The darktentacles from MM2 has a +16 racial bonus, but it's only a large creature with 19 Str. Now if you could steal that racial bonus somehow...

Girallon soulmeld adds on a competence bonus (at 2 + 2/essentia), but without totemist levels that's a rather feat heavy investment.

Thanks, I'll look into the Darktentacles, I already have Girallon Arms actually