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launch bolt + eschew materials launch bolt launches any light crossbow bolt with a range increment of 80 ft. eschew materials ignores the cost of any material under 1g. a bolt costs 1 silver. +1 size catagory to it doubles the cost. a gargantuan light crossbow bolt costs 8 silver and does 3d6 damage. launch bolt never said anything about "size appropriate" light crossbow bolts.  incidentally, casting launch bolt as an SLA means you can do it with collosal bolts. and yes, I know about the warmage edge abuse, and the fel draining acid splash. this post is for entertainment purposes only. also, arcane thesis(launch bolt) anyone? |
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2009, 09:41:32 PM » |
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cantrip + 5 levels of archmage + arcane fire = 5d6 damage with a cantrip
Yes it's a horrible use of a 9th level spell slot for a stupid trick
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2009, 09:42:12 PM » |
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The bolt should really be the target and/or focus, not a material component. launch bolt never said anything about "size appropriate" light crossbow bolts.
Yeah, this is a relatively old trick. Haven't seen it with Eschew Materials before, though.  |
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 09:44:44 PM » |
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The bolt should really be the target and/or focus, not a material component. launch bolt never said anything about "size appropriate" light crossbow bolts.
Yeah, this is a relatively old trick. Haven't seen it with Eschew Materials before, though. Heh, outshine the warlock for a couple levels at his own game  I'm tempted to put that on my character now just for shits and grins so I don't feel so useless with so few spells at level TWO |
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Viletta Vadim
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2009, 09:54:07 PM » |
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Wouldn't it be 4d6, though? 1d8 for medium, 2d6 for large, 3d6 for huge, 4d6 for gargantuan.
Edit: Now find a way to add in the epic feat, Ignore Material Components, to fire arbitrarily large bolts for arbitrarily large damage.
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Emy
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 10:15:19 PM » |
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Aren't there no sizes above Colossal, unless you're using 3rd-party materials?
PS: you don't need Ignore Material Components, you just need to have racial spellcasting.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2009, 10:23:05 PM » |
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There are no sizes above colossal for creatures, but it's entirely possible to get objects above colossal for objects. If you're a medium creature using Monkey Grip to wield a large fullblade, and then use Giant Size to turn colossal, what size is your sword if not one size category above colossal? The weapon damage tables from Arms and Equipment Guide already support weapons beyond colossal. Just not weapons that are very far beyond colossal. But presumably, there is damage progression if you manage to get a weapon that's even bigger, even if you have to extrapolate from the A&EG tables to get it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2009, 10:38:43 PM » |
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So you'll be wanting a Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold, then?
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So you end up stuck in an endless loop, unable to act, forever.
In retrospect, much like Keanu Reeves.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2009, 10:47:30 PM » |
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So you'll be wanting a Venerable Dragonwrought Kobold, then?
Well, for all the DBZ fans, there's your Kamehameha... |
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Viletta Vadim
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2009, 10:57:54 PM » |
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I don't recall the part of Kamehameha where people launched redwoods at each other.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2009, 12:18:18 AM » |
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assuming that the custom item rules for an at will power is 1800*caster level*EFFECTIVE spell level, and you are able to craft metamagic'ed spells into custom items..... ring of eschew materials invisible launch bolt. yep, thats right..... for 900 gold, at will gargantuan invisible crossbow bolts fired from your hands. THAT is the REAL ki blast.  EDIT: math error, wrote 1800g instead of 900g.... which is the WBL for a 2nd level char, if I recall... EDIT2: also, 50 +1 sizing crossbow bolts are only 8k gold or so.... |
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2009, 01:57:12 AM » |
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I don't recall the part of Kamehameha where people launched redwoods at each other.
Who can tell anyway as blurry as it would get going just under the speed of light but somehow too slow to hit anything but an immobile opponent? And besides, it's on fire But it's not fire O.o LOL |
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2009, 02:45:57 AM » |
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Ghost2 does it 12 times better with telekinesis.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2009, 02:58:01 AM » |
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Ghost1 does it 12 times better with telekinesis.
Ghost with telekenisis can't be played at ECL 1. (or does their savage progression give them that at 1... I can't recall...) |
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2009, 06:25:40 PM » |
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Ghost1 does it 12 times better with telekinesis.
Ghost with telekenisis can't be played at ECL 1. (or does their savage progression give them that at 1... I can't recall...) I'm guessing that is what the 1 is after the word ghost in his post. |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2009, 06:31:25 PM » |
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I don't recall the part of Kamehameha where people launched redwoods at each other.
There was actually a character in the original Dragonball who travelled around by throwing giant pillars and then hopping on. |
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2009, 07:13:48 PM » |
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Dragon magazine 302 gave us the cantrip zap trap, 1 electric damage in a 3 inch diameter rune.
Pathfinder gave us infinate cantrips a day.
pay 4 silver for a 6' by 6' canvis.
cast eschued material zap trap 576 times, or just under 10 solid hours of casting...
then deploy your canvis as you see fit (Aka, a trap that drops it on an unsuspecting wizard, replace the 40th level barbarian's bed roll with the canvis and put him to sleep, permenately)
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2009, 08:42:50 PM » |
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There was actually a character in the original Dragonball who travelled around by throwing giant pillars and then hopping on. Traveling by throwing Mjolnir is cooler. |
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2009, 11:27:48 PM » |
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There was actually a character in the original Dragonball who travelled around by throwing giant pillars and then hopping on. Traveling by throwing Mjolnir is cooler. I've seen a write up for the Hulking Hurler teleporting to any place on the planet by throwing the world around under him. |
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2009, 07:49:35 AM » |
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a gargantuan light crossbow bolt costs 8 silver and does 3d6 damage.
launch bolt never said anything about "size appropriate" light crossbow bolts. I guess the question is: should you take a -6 penalty for firing a weapon three size categories too big? It's a grey area, but so is this trick.  |
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