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« Reply #580 on: November 09, 2009, 08:30:08 PM » |
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I am not even a teacher and I can do that! Third language, btw.
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Ja vuosia myöhemmin
kalvas kaksikko lattialla motellin tihrustelee,
kun sama keiju katossa leijailee.
Kyselevät: "Mikä päivä nyt on?
Tiedätkö sen?"
Kuiskaten laulaa keiju:
"Tämän elämän viimeinen."
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« Reply #581 on: November 09, 2009, 11:06:57 PM » |
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People who learn english as a 2nd/3rd language do tend to end up better speakers than the natives. It's just a sad fact, primarily because we learned it from just picking it up around, and then learned how to do it properly, and you learned it properly first. In most cases. In some cases english as a secondary language is just easier for people who start with a different one than people who started with english. And then there's the fact that most of us english speakers don't really care if we're doing it wrong.
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« Reply #582 on: November 09, 2009, 11:17:55 PM » |
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Ah, Japan. Is there anything ball-related you'll make that's not fun? Oww, my nutsack performed a strategic withdrawal when I watched that. |
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The mind transcends the body. It's also a little cold because of that. Please get it a blanket. I wish I could read your mind, I can barely read mine. "Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill
To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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« Reply #583 on: November 09, 2009, 11:20:20 PM » |
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And then there's the fact that most of us english speakers don't really care if we're doing it wrong.
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« Reply #584 on: November 09, 2009, 11:27:42 PM » |
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Ah, Japan. Is there anything ball-related you'll make that's not fun? Oww, my nutsack performed a strategic withdrawal when I watched that. And we take another step towards the fulfillment of the prophesy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_4jrMwvZ2A |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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« Reply #585 on: November 09, 2009, 11:54:07 PM » |
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And then there's the fact that most of us english speakers don't really care if we're doing it wrong.
This bugs me to no end. Personally, I find exact language to be unnecessary, but when people go over the line, yeah, it bugs me too. You've gotta get the message across at least. |
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« Reply #586 on: November 10, 2009, 12:01:24 AM » |
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Pssht. You people are going to ruin English. The beauty of English is that you can make up words and all rules are negotiable. That's the point.
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She hasn't come to crush your bones, nor tear your flesh
She has come to steal your sanity with just one glanceSacrapos - At First Glance, Eluveitie |
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« Reply #587 on: November 10, 2009, 01:26:26 AM » |
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language is an art.
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The goal of power is power. - idk We are not descended from fearful men. - Murrow The Final Countdown is now stuck in your head. Anim-manga sux.  |
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« Reply #588 on: November 10, 2009, 02:08:02 AM » |
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Pssht. You people are going to ruin English. The beauty of English is that you can make up words and all rules are negotiable. That's the point.
Yeah, English is great that way, but there's still a right way and a wrong way to do it! It's like the old adage: you have to know the rules before you can start breaking them. |
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« Reply #589 on: November 10, 2009, 07:43:12 AM » |
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Pssht. You people are going to ruin English. The beauty of English is that you can make up words and all rules are negotiable. That's the point.
Yeah, English is great that way, but there's still a right way and a wrong way to do it! It's like the old adage: you have to know the rules before you can start breaking them. +1. As for the "people who pick it up as a second language tend to learn it better" thing, the exception that proves the rule seems to be Brazillians who speak English. Maybe it's because I'm a little too stringent on what I consider good English (or maybe I'm just that fucking awesome), but the fact of the matter is, I've yet to encounter more than a couple of people on my level. One of them is a friend from school, who just so happened to have spent a year in England - and even so his speech is better than his grammar. |
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« Reply #590 on: November 10, 2009, 08:37:26 AM » |
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Pssht. You people are going to ruin English. The beauty of English is that you can make up words and all rules are negotiable. That's the point.
Yeah, English is great that way, but there's still a right way and a wrong way to do it! It's like the old adage: you have to know the rules before you can start breaking them. +1. As for the "people who pick it up as a second language tend to learn it better" thing, the exception that proves the rule seems to be Brazillians who speak English. Maybe it's because I'm a little too stringent on what I consider good English (or maybe I'm just that fucking awesome), but the fact of the matter is, I've yet to encounter more than a couple of people on my level. One of them is a friend from school, who just so happened to have spent a year in England - and even so his speech is better than his grammar. +1 - I and a friend of mine are the best English speakers in our class by a wide margin (3rd language for me, 2nd for him). It drops quite sharply after us. I believe the difference comes from me and him both frequenting English-language forums. If you write and read a bunch of stuff every day, you're bound to get in some good practice. Of note: I've never been in an English-speaking country. Pssht. You people are going to ruin English. The beauty of English is that you can make up words and all rules are negotiable. That's the point.
As citizen of a country where we've made a game (or perhaps a minor meme) of making up the longest word you can out of multiple shorter words, I'm honestly not impressed with the make-up-words-ness of English. Sure, you can do some fun things with turning verbs into adjectives (or nouns into adjectives, or verbs into nouns...), but I haven't sween any english words come close to the ridiculous specificness some German words can achieve. |
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« Reply #591 on: November 10, 2009, 09:10:41 AM » |
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Pssht. You people are going to ruin English. The beauty of English is that you can make up words and all rules are negotiable. That's the point.
Yeah, English is great that way, but there's still a right way and a wrong way to do it! It's like the old adage: you have to know the rules before you can start breaking them. I reference "Bonii" on this one. |
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
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« Reply #592 on: November 10, 2009, 09:14:52 AM » |
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We don't have time to stick words together to make longer words. We'd just rather make up a new, shorter word.
English is a lot like math. "Alright, the ratio of radius to the circumference is 3.1419- fuck it, we're writing a little table, that's what it means."
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She hasn't come to crush your bones, nor tear your flesh
She has come to steal your sanity with just one glanceSacrapos - At First Glance, Eluveitie |
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« Reply #593 on: November 10, 2009, 09:24:20 AM » |
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We don't have time to stick words together to make longer words. We'd just rather make up a new, shorter word.
English is a lot like math. "Alright, the ratio of radius to the circumference is 3.1419- fuck it, we're writing a little table, that's what it means."
or we just subsitute "fuck" into the word in the middle somewhere to expand it. |
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #594 on: November 10, 2009, 10:57:08 AM » |
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Better yet, we just replace words with fuck. I mean it's all contextualfuck, right?
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« Reply #595 on: November 10, 2009, 11:40:00 AM » |
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What about fuckity?
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So you end up stuck in an endless loop, unable to act, forever.
In retrospect, much like Keanu Reeves.
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« Reply #596 on: November 10, 2009, 11:45:44 AM » |
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"Weakness? Come test thy mettle against me, hairless ape, and we shall know who is weak!" You caught a fish. It was awesome.  |
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« Reply #597 on: November 10, 2009, 11:55:28 AM » |
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Today's date is 11-10-09.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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« Reply #598 on: November 10, 2009, 03:30:37 PM » |
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Alas, the countdown won't complete until February 1st, 2300, by my calculations.
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So you end up stuck in an endless loop, unable to act, forever.
In retrospect, much like Keanu Reeves.
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« Reply #599 on: November 10, 2009, 03:32:41 PM » |
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Alas, the countdown won't complete until February 1st, 2300, by my calculations.
Technically, May 4th, 2103 0201:00 Hours |
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time. I give you much fu. Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie. |
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