Optimize a fire sorcerer!

[CantripN]

Too bad Seeker and Thaumaturge are TOME CLASSES, and not meant for play with regular D&D. Not to mention, they aren't WotC, unless I'm sorely mistaken. And let's not forget the Book of Erotic Fantasy being contested turf... Still, an Uncapped Orb of Fire with all of the above (assume CL 20, for convenience, but we'll have it much sooner than ECL 20. ECL 14, at most.) would be dealing 120d6+1200 or so. Shiny.

That said, if you miss on even one roll, and they have the Spell Reflection ACF, you're toast. Literally.

If said DM is allowing all that, he's sure as fuck allowing Wings of Cover

Don't you just LOVE Divine Defiance? I've been known to use it to Counterspell any and all such defenses with my Sorcerer Gish. It's so easy to kill your prey when they can't cast anything decent. 

[KellKheraptis]

Too bad Seeker and Thaumaturge are TOME CLASSES, and not meant for play with regular D&D. Not to mention, they aren't WotC, unless I'm sorely mistaken. And let's not forget the Book of Erotic Fantasy being contested turf... Still, an Uncapped Orb of Fire with all of the above (assume CL 20, for convenience, but we'll have it much sooner than ECL 20. ECL 14, at most.) would be dealing 120d6+1200 or so. Shiny.

That said, if you miss on even one roll, and they have the Spell Reflection ACF, you're toast. Literally.

If said DM is allowing all that, he's sure as fuck allowing Wings of Cover

Don't you just LOVE Divine Defiance? I've been known to use it to Counterspell any and all such defenses with my Sorcerer Gish. It's so easy to kill your prey when they can't cast anything decent.  

I'll have to look into that, for sure.  My current project now is getting the same caliber of blasting we have here without Tome material.  Incantatrix seems a shoe-in, as does War Mage of course.  It could most likely also fit SWS if it wanted, without all the Seeker levels, but when we can always remove the save, why bother   AoE burning>single target, after all.  Also, this puppy has like 3/4 of the needed components of an LCB, and the means of doing them all day long.  So why not

After I finish eating I'll post up a new Tome-free version, though in terms of raw power, the Thaumaturge really takes the cake.

EDIT : Damn quote box misplaced the reply...

[Midnight_v]

Watching you two talk is like so annoying... your avatars = the black mage conclave and all. 

[skydragonknight]

My avatar is a black mage too. Kind of.

I don't really understand why people hold WotC material as the utmost standard. They've shown to be thoroughly incompetent before enough times. At least a lot of the Tome classes are something somebody would actually want to play, rather than just taking up space like most of WotC creations.

This is, of course, just my opinion. As DM, I agree with a lot of Frank & K's assessments and go with their material quite often.

It's not a quality standard so much as it being the most common ruleset. Sort of like Windows being the most common operating system even though it's not the best. Still, you'd better be compatible with "Wizdows" or you won't have as many users.

[X-Codes]

Watching you two talk is like so annoying... your avatars = the black mage conclave and all. 

Queue sarcastic remark by Solo.

[bkdubs123]

Hey, thanks for all the help guys. I'll post up the final character once we get it done. Just for your information, the character in question is a Gnome Cold Mage that was cursed to be a Goblin and only capable of casting Fire spells. So all this Snowcasting fun is 100% perfect and hilariously awesome. He's cleverly subverting the curse in a minor way to spite whatever entity cursed him in the first place. Great stuff.

[woodenbandman]

Why is the first answer to someone who wants to be a fire sorceror to take a whole bunch of ice-related feats?

[CantripN]

Why is the first answer to someone who wants to be a fire sorceror to take a whole bunch of ice-related feats?

Feel free to refluff it as you like, but if I went with pure RAW Fire-only feats, we'd end up with roughly the same CL, but no +2 Damage/Die, which was the point.