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« Reply #820 on: September 23, 2009, 03:39:54 PM » |
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At level 15, chances are you have a +6 item. And if you put all 4 of your stat boosts into it, and you have an 18 in Wisdom, you just made it to one spell. In optimization I agree, but in practice (especially without point buy and magic marts) that can be hard to reach.
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 If you stop ignoring 289 pages telling what the intent is to stretch "more power" in your own god complexion of your interpretation trumps all to cover ability adjustments from aging then I will ignore a quarter page of rules that exist within a sidebar.
I think in this case the grammar is less important than whether the Str and Dex bonus provided to your created undead scales.
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« Reply #821 on: September 23, 2009, 04:12:54 PM » |
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At level 15, chances are you have a +6 item. And if you put all 4 of your stat boosts into it, and you have an 18 in Wisdom, you just made it to one spell. In optimization I agree, but in practice (especially without point buy and magic marts) that can be hard to reach.
Persist the Owl's Insight Spell with DMM shenanigans. BAM Or Persistent Necrotic Empowerment (if you take the Mother Cyst feat, which I like for several reasons other than this awesome buff). It is very rare that I play in a game that doesn't allow point buy and at least access to basic magic items, like attribute enhancers. So no, I don't think it is unreasonable to reach at all. Yeah, you have to optimize your character. But so what? This is the optimization board... That's kind of the whole point. We don't usually talk about wizards with 3 int on here. And like I said, even if you only (  ) get 9th level spells two levels early... that's still 9th level spells two levels early (and 8th level spells 2-3 levels early, and likely 7th level spells a level early). That is HUGE. That is you ahead of the curve for 5-6 levels, casting spells that no one else in your party can access yet. And this can be on top of a character that didn't even start out as a spell caster. So you can have swordsage levels in there, or monk, or crusader, etc. |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
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« Reply #822 on: September 23, 2009, 04:47:19 PM » |
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Touche on the tomes and persisting Owl's Insight, I didn't think of that. Then yeah, I guess so. I was really just asking about CL shenanigans but I guess I learned something else today.  |
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« Reply #823 on: September 23, 2009, 05:54:59 PM » |
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Q226 Are there stats for a Tortoise (not a dire one) in DND 3.5?
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« Reply #824 on: September 23, 2009, 06:12:29 PM » |
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At level 15, chances are you have a +6 item. And if you put all 4 of your stat boosts into it, and you have an 18 in Wisdom, you just made it to one spell. In optimization I agree, but in practice (especially without point buy and magic marts) that can be hard to reach.
If you are level fifteen and after four stat boots and a +6 item and only have an 18 in Wisdom, why are you taking levels in a PrC focused on divine spellcasting based on your Wisdom stat? |
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« Reply #825 on: September 23, 2009, 06:16:02 PM » |
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At level 15, chances are you have a +6 item. And if you put all 4 of your stat boosts into it, and you have an 18 in Wisdom, you just made it to one spell. In optimization I agree, but in practice (especially without point buy and magic marts) that can be hard to reach.
If you are level fifteen and after four stat boots and a +6 item and only have an 18 in Wisdom, why are you taking levels in a PrC focused on divine spellcasting based on your Wisdom stat? i think he was meaning you start with an 18 WIS; then with the +6 item and +4 for levels, that gives you a 28 Wis -- which is what you need to get a bonus 9th level spell. never mind that you don't get your 4th stat boost until 16th level. |
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If you stop ignoring 289 pages telling what the intent is to stretch "more power" in your own god complexion of your interpretation trumps all to cover ability adjustments from aging then I will ignore a quarter page of rules that exist within a sidebar.
I think in this case the grammar is less important than whether the Str and Dex bonus provided to your created undead scales.
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« Reply #826 on: September 23, 2009, 06:17:12 PM » |
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At level 15, chances are you have a +6 item. And if you put all 4 of your stat boosts into it, and you have an 18 in Wisdom, you just made it to one spell. In optimization I agree, but in practice (especially without point buy and magic marts) that can be hard to reach.
If you are level fifteen and after four stat boots and a +6 item and only have an 18 in Wisdom, why are you taking levels in a PrC focused on divine spellcasting based on your Wisdom stat? Also, you don't need a "magicmart", just craft it yourself and be done with it. |
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.
Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY! They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.
Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.
Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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« Reply #827 on: September 23, 2009, 06:23:10 PM » |
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At level 15, chances are you have a +6 item. And if you put all 4 of your stat boosts into it, and you have an 18 in Wisdom, you just made it to one spell. In optimization I agree, but in practice (especially without point buy and magic marts) that can be hard to reach.
If you are level fifteen and after four stat boots and a +6 item and only have an 18 in Wisdom, why are you taking levels in a PrC focused on divine spellcasting based on your Wisdom stat? i think he was meaning you start with an 18 WIS; then with the +6 item and +4 for levels, that gives you a 28 Wis -- which is what you need to get a bonus 9th level spell. never mind that you don't get your 4th stat boost until 16th level. That makes sense. It also doesn't help that I didn't even notice this page when I responded to his message.  |
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« Reply #828 on: September 24, 2009, 12:52:25 PM » |
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Q227 This is more like a "wtf" statement but, Undead are vulnerable to Ray of Enfeeblement? WTF?
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« Reply #829 on: September 24, 2009, 01:13:05 PM » |
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Q227 This is more like a "wtf" statement but, Undead are vulnerable to Ray of Enfeeblement? WTF?
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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« Reply #830 on: September 25, 2009, 10:17:41 AM » |
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Q228: Um a rod of wonder can "Reduce wielder to 1/12 height (no save)." Wouldn't this take any small sized creature to fine? Even some slightly shorter medium ones would make it. Or does this just make you look really fat and nearly 2 dimensional?
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An interesting read, nice to see a civil discussion The point of Spell Resistance is to make it harder to get buffed. And healed. Don't forget that. Huge amounts of people are fuckwits. That doesn't mean that fuckwit is a valid lifestyle. Old Geezer's Law of Hobby Taste: The more objectively inconsequential a hobby is, the more disagreements within the community will be expressed in outrageously insulting, overblown, and ludicrously emotionally laden terms. More Funny than HumbleYour a shifter... you have all you ever need. It blows MoMF out of the water But if your greedy for more [ Wish] for something that only effects you, like another class level or two that doesn't count against your ECL. Yes, I'm the 3.0 "Masters of the Wild" shifter, the awesome kind. My favorite form to take is Force Dragon. Yes, I am immortal ... My character is hands down the coolest guy in the campaign and there is nothing I could possibly want. PBMC gets a cookie for DotA r |
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« Reply #831 on: September 25, 2009, 10:21:44 AM » |
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A228: Since it is based on reduce person, it probably does reduce size also. I'd just limit it to one size catagory, however, to make things easy. (Although, if you are giving the rod of wonder to your players, you're asking for trouble as a DM anyway.)
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« Reply #832 on: September 25, 2009, 01:08:43 PM » |
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Q 229: Can I add the Distance Special Ability multiple times to the same weapon, and if not, why?
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« Reply #833 on: September 25, 2009, 01:25:29 PM » |
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Q 229: Can I add the Distance Special Ability multiple times to the same weapon, and if not, why?
Same origin bonuses/multipliers do not stack unless otherwise stated. Otherwise you could have a Gay Flaming Flaming Flaming Flaming Flaming Longsword, for example, even though damage always stacks. |
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« Reply #834 on: September 25, 2009, 01:32:49 PM » |
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Q 230 do you need to take all levels of a racial class?
say i want to play a ghost by the :Ghost Template Class
to i need to take all levels or can i take just the first and then become something else forsaking the rest of the abilities that qould come?
it there any ruling on that? can someone provide it?
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« Reply #835 on: September 25, 2009, 01:49:32 PM » |
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Q 229: Can I add the Distance Special Ability multiple times to the same weapon, and if not, why?
Same origin bonuses/multipliers do not stack unless otherwise stated. Otherwise you could have a Gay Flaming Flaming Flaming Flaming Flaming Longsword, for example, even though damage always stacks. Dang, there goes my idea for a +1 throwing returning seeking Distance Distance Distance Distance Distance Distance simatar to create a weaponmaster sniper |
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« Reply #836 on: September 25, 2009, 03:37:02 PM » |
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Q 230 do you need to take all levels of a racial class? Yes, IIRC it's in Savage Species. |
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« Reply #837 on: September 25, 2009, 03:39:55 PM » |
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A228: Since it is based on reduce person, it probably does reduce size also. I'd just limit it to one size catagory, however, to make things easy. (Although, if you are giving the rod of wonder to your players, you're asking for trouble as a DM anyway.) It's not up to a DM giving it to players, it can be crafted. But the specified height change seems very different than a normal reduce person spell. 1/12th height, according to the averages for the size table, puts ANY 'small size' creature to fine size (and potentially some medium ones as well) |
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An interesting read, nice to see a civil discussion The point of Spell Resistance is to make it harder to get buffed. And healed. Don't forget that. Huge amounts of people are fuckwits. That doesn't mean that fuckwit is a valid lifestyle. Old Geezer's Law of Hobby Taste: The more objectively inconsequential a hobby is, the more disagreements within the community will be expressed in outrageously insulting, overblown, and ludicrously emotionally laden terms. More Funny than HumbleYour a shifter... you have all you ever need. It blows MoMF out of the water But if your greedy for more [ Wish] for something that only effects you, like another class level or two that doesn't count against your ECL. Yes, I'm the 3.0 "Masters of the Wild" shifter, the awesome kind. My favorite form to take is Force Dragon. Yes, I am immortal ... My character is hands down the coolest guy in the campaign and there is nothing I could possibly want. PBMC gets a cookie for DotA r |
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« Reply #838 on: September 25, 2009, 04:34:19 PM » |
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Q 230 do you need to take all levels of a racial class? Yes, IIRC it's in Savage Species. Depends on the source, I think. SS progressions need to be taken consecutively. LM and online ones iirc do not. |
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« Reply #839 on: September 25, 2009, 07:14:25 PM » |
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Q 230 do you need to take all levels of a racial class? Yes, IIRC it's in Savage Species. Depends on the source, I think. SS progressions need to be taken consecutively. LM and online ones iirc do not. online ones explicitly do not require you to take all the levels. And they came out later than SS, so they aren't bound by SS' rules |
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