Character Discussion

[VennDygrem]

Maybe it was to have enough skill points to put into Kn(Nature) and Survival?

Totemist 5 has Survival and Knowledge (Nature) covered.


AH! Totem Rager. Or was he aiming for Bear Warrior?

You're right, same number of skill points. My bad.

[Takanaki]

Sin, could I get Divine Magician on an Archivist?

That requires you to have Domains, right? If so, you need a PrC that gives you Domains before you can get that.

First level only so it won't be happening, nm.

[VennDygrem]

Sin, could I get Divine Magician on an Archivist?

That requires you to have Domains, right? If so, you need a PrC that gives you Domains before you can get that.

First level only so it won't be happening, nm.

There are still some damn nice divine spells for Clerics and Druids though, as you're aware, but that's beside the point. I wouldn't want you to get burned out on the archetype.

On another note, I'm trying to figure out how people usually keep their cohorts alive. They're fully two levels behind you, and don't generally have nearly as good ability scores, both of which take a big chunk out of potential hp (In my case, the cohort actually has less HP than a familiar would have had). Obviously in this situation the rest of the party helps in mitigating damage, and the person in question tries their best to stay out of the way, but this is still more challenging than not having the character to worry about. I suppose that's the price you pay at low levels.

[Rayth Molba]

EDIT: Wait, nevermind, I answered my own question. I should be done with my character very soon. Sorry for the wait, everyone.

[Takanaki]

Sin, could I get Divine Magician on an Archivist?

That requires you to have Domains, right? If so, you need a PrC that gives you Domains before you can get that.

First level only so it won't be happening, nm.

There are still some damn nice divine spells for Clerics and Druids though, as you're aware, but that's beside the point. I wouldn't want you to get burned out on the archetype.

On another note, I'm trying to figure out how people usually keep their cohorts alive. They're fully two levels behind you, and don't generally have nearly as good ability scores, both of which take a big chunk out of potential hp (In my case, the cohort actually has less HP than a familiar would have had). Obviously in this situation the rest of the party helps in mitigating damage, and the person in question tries their best to stay out of the way, but this is still more challenging than not having the character to worry about. I suppose that's the price you pay at low levels.

Full Gestalt would keep it interesting, but you're right.. i've done it all before. I'm trying to find where in Dragon the feat for extra unique powers for Erudite is.... 319 I think but I don't have it.

Edit:
Prerequisite: Possess the unique powers per day class ability.
Benefit: Choose a power level from which you can already manifest powers (1st through 9th). From now on, you can manifest one more unique power per day from among the powers you know of this level.
Special: You can take this feat multiple times however, you can't take more than once per character level.

You have to pick a level... kinda sucks.

[Rayth Molba]

Really sorry for the wait everyone, but I think I'm finished with my character. I have the stuff down, but since it's really late here I won't be able to post it up until tomorrow morning. Sorry again for the wait. Expect it up tomorrow, barring totally ridiculous circumstances.

[Rayth Molba]

Really really sorry for the ridiculous amount of wait, everyone, and thanks for putting up with me. I think I've got everything, but if you guys notice something missing in my sheet or my WBL break-down, tell me, and I'll fix it.

Well, after several internet failings, crazy events popping up out of nowhere, and tons of other crap, I'm ready. Thanks for waiting. 

[VennDygrem]

Did you roll your HP or take the average? Your hp value seems a little low, even for having a d6 hit die and low con. Did you remember to give yourself double-max HP at first level?

Also, just because I got my cleric cohort done doesn't mean I'm quite satisfied with it. It's still rather squishy and can't really contribute to combat very much, though if it can last until it gets higher level spells it should manage to be an effective powerhouse as usual. For now it's vulnerable and I'm still unsure whether to bother with cloistered cleric or just go general cleric. In the interest of saving time, however, I'm willing to keep it as-is.

Also, Takanaki, any updates on your ideas?
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On another note, can a spellthief steal the ability to cast a cleric's spontaneously converted spell? For instance, could it steal a prepared 1st level spell, swapping it out for cure light wounds as the cleric would? Essentially, casting it as if the cleric was casting it, or treating the stolen spell as if it had come from a spontaneous caster such as a sorcerer. It sounds silly, really, but it's going to end up defining what I choose for my spontaneous domain casting, and what spells I need to have prepared.

[Rayth Molba]

I think I rolled for HP, but I did not include the double for first level. I have my rolls somewhere, so I should dig those up, and find out if it would just be better to do average. Eh.

I don't know anything about Clerics or Spellthiefs(Spellthieves?), or I would help.

[Rayth Molba]

Are we still waiting for anyone/anything?

[VennDygrem]

Takanaki's psion is done, but he may decide to change it. Other than that, Sinfire is having PC troubles, so until those are resolved we may have some issues getting started.

[Generic_PC]

Hmm.

That's probably what we're waiting for. I still haven't found any reason, other than hps, to keep the second level of barbarian. should i change it up?

[BowenSilverclaw]

Depends I guess. What would you get instead of Uncanny Dodge or Improved trip?

[Takanaki]

HP drop of turning to something other than a Gestalt class is too painful for me to consider seriously. There's some cheese that could be done but it's overall easier to stick with what i've got... unless I change it, but I doubt I will. I have my doubts over whether this will even start by the end of July anyway.

[VennDygrem]

HP aren't everything. My character originally had half again as many hp as my character currently does, but my current build has higher AC, better saves overall, more invocations and actual spellcasting ability, and surprisingly, more DR. I still wouldn't want him getting into melee range compared to the brute version, but he's definitely not completely frail.

My cloistered cleric cohort, on the otherhand, is a walking target, and I'm still trying to figure out how to increase its durability without sacrificing utility.

[BowenSilverclaw]

Law Devotion for starters? Assuming you don't need your Domains for something else...

[Generic_PC]

Ok, i finished migrating the 2nd level of Barbarian into the 2nd level of Weretouched Master. I realized I hadn't chosen a "totem" for my character, thus he is now a Tiger Weretouched Master. Add another damage size to claws!!

[BowenSilverclaw]

Just to make sure, you've read the ECS errata, right?

EDIT: You Multiattack-Pouncers make my Greatsword-wielder feel inadequate

[VennDygrem]

While law devotion adds a nice bonus to offense or defense, a Chaotic Neutral cleric can't select the Law domain.

If I make the cohort lawful, that reduces my leadership score I believe, and while it's already high enough to stay at the point where it's still 2 levels behind me, there are also other factors keeping me from doing this. 1) free extend spell feat makes qualifying for Persist spell easier, and 2) it doesn't make sense for a lawful cleric to follow around a chaotic-neutral gnome with a proclivity for mischief.

I'm still questioning the build, and its effectiveness depends on Sinfire's ruling to my previous question, but it's good to go if it comes to getting the game up and running. Until then, I'll have to play around with my options. I was mainly interested in using the cohort as a 'spell battery' though I'm not sure how useful that concept is now. It's almost more trouble than it's worth.

[Generic_PC]

He's just trying to balance the gnome out.