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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2009, 05:25:17 PM » |
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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2009, 05:40:57 PM » |
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Lycanthropes can obviously make good monks or at least make a monk-dip worthwhile.
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2009, 12:09:32 AM » |
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There the Moon Guardian PrC in the Complete Divine web enhancement. It sucks, but it's the only specific afflicted lycanthrope PrC I can think of.
edit: oh wait, you've got that one already. I guess if you weren't concerned about casting, then pair it up with Ordained Champion and get a bit more mileage out of Wis?
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2009, 01:02:39 AM » |
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2009, 03:40:54 AM » |
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Can you use racial emulation to emulate a creature with a template?
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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2009, 10:20:35 AM » |
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Can you use racial emulation to emulate a creature with a template?
I talk about that in the linked thread. It's TO any way you slice it, really, but it's still interesting. Let me just say that we disagree. |
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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2009, 06:46:07 PM » |
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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2009, 04:33:11 AM » |
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Casting: Ur-Priest Ur-priest doesn't mix all that well with Ordained Champion (viable (I think?), but you lose out on some benefits unless you finagle domains in somehow), and it is outright incompatible with Moon Guardian. I know, I know. Just mentioned it for those Lycanthropes that want 9th level spells Also, Contemplative and/or Hexer for some bonuses to your spell list are a given  |
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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2009, 01:50:30 PM » |
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Casting: Ur-Priest Ur-priest doesn't mix all that well with Ordained Champion (viable (I think?), but you lose out on some benefits unless you finagle domains in somehow), and it is outright incompatible with Moon Guardian. I know, I know. Just mentioned it for those Lycanthropes that want 9th level spells Also, Contemplative and/or Hexer for some bonuses to your spell list are a given Now you're going into general tips which have nothing to do with Lycanthropes. |
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« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2009, 02:08:43 PM » |
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Casting: Ur-Priest Ur-priest doesn't mix all that well with Ordained Champion (viable (I think?), but you lose out on some benefits unless you finagle domains in somehow), and it is outright incompatible with Moon Guardian. I know, I know. Just mentioned it for those Lycanthropes that want 9th level spells Also, Contemplative and/or Hexer for some bonuses to your spell list are a given Now you're going into general tips which have nothing to do with Lycanthropes. Wow, you really wanna keep this as short as possible |
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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2009, 02:14:28 PM » |
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edit: oh wait, you've got that one already. I guess if you weren't concerned about casting, then pair it up with Ordained Champion and get a bit more mileage out of Wis?
Casting: Ur-Priest Ur-priest doesn't mix all that well with Ordained Champion (viable (I think?), but you lose out on some benefits unless you finagle domains in somehow), and it is outright incompatible with Moon Guardian. I know, I know. Just mentioned it for those Lycanthropes that want 9th level spells Also, Contemplative and/or Hexer for some bonuses to your spell list are a given Now you're going into general tips which have nothing to do with Lycanthropes. Wow, you really wanna keep this as short as possible Not short, just limited in scope. This is a Lycanthropy guide, not a guide to everything that might possibly be useful to a Lycanthropy character. |
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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2009, 08:56:56 PM » |
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I didn't realize that lycanthropes had to be within one size of the base creature. I now need to find a large-sized race that the players wont automatically kill on sight for my planned were-tyrannosaur encounter.
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« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2009, 12:52:50 AM » |
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I didn't realize that lycanthropes had to be within one size of the base creature. I now need to find a large-sized race that the players wont automatically kill on sight for my planned were-tyrannosaur encounter.
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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2009, 02:05:13 PM » |
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How do Anthropomorphic - Animals , fit into this ??
I'm always partial to Ardent, fitting well with up to 4 MLs lost.
Ur + Ardent into Mystic Theurge also works.
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2009, 02:38:39 PM » |
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How do Anthropomorphic - Animals , fit into this ?? IIRC anthros are Monstrous Humanoids. Play an anthropomorphic wolf werewolf. |
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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2009, 02:40:33 PM » |
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IIRC, Monstrous Humanoids is not a viable type for Lycanthropy
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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2009, 02:48:25 PM » |
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IIRC, Monstrous Humanoids is not a viable type for Lycanthropy
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« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2009, 03:01:11 PM » |
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IIRC, Monstrous Humanoids is not a viable type for Lycanthropy
I believe it's humanoids and giants only. Correct. |
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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2009, 03:03:58 PM » |
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I disagree about it being so important to keep the animal and base creature the same size. All magic items automatically resize to fit their wearer by default, except for armor and weapons. The weapons won't matter much for natural weapon based builds, and there are ways around the armor problem also, like using a Monk's belt (or taking monk levels) or a Skin of Ectoplasmic Armor. If you want to use weapons, you can get the Sizing enhancement, or just carry around two weapons of different sizes, also (or just eat the -2 penalty for using an inappropriately sized one).
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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2009, 03:40:52 PM » |
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...or Strongarm gloves and carry around a weapon for the larger size of the two. |
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