gagnrath
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2009, 11:04:15 AM » |
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For grins you might go a good cleric base with vow of peace and keep on spamming them with end of strife.
It doesn't sound like they have a good range guy in what you described and if nothing else it'll make them think for a couple of rounds before you go and own them.
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2009, 11:04:51 AM » |
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i dont really expect to 'contribute' here, just commenting
winnig with lots of fighter lvs would be excellent.. commoner would be better...
dosnt 5:1 epic require broken mechanics?
this is an areana situation?
TS + large tarps +cats + imediate action TS + rope. who needs a regular win, when you can put them in a bag of cats..
anyway, i saw in the vs. preview that a bard and wiz will be involved on their side, so you have to win init... beyond that i would optimize for fun.
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2009, 11:40:17 AM » |
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See if you can get into the arena ahead of time (possibly with anticipate teleportation to get there first). Stop time. Write explosive runes on every possible surface, then polymorph into a force dragon.
Misdirection: Make a simulacrum of your character and disguise yourself as a familiar. Alternatively, a "The Big Guy is With Me" build, where the companion is the real danger.
Fill a portable hole with dust of dryness (already at full capacity) then empty the hole onto the ground. They probably won't be prepared for underwater combat, and they might be knocked prone by the wave. Works best if you're an artificer due to cost.
Get a Fine bag of holding and Fine portable hole, and build them into a two-section arrow so that one section is pushed into the other on impact.
Play an arseplomancer.
Play a chicken-infested commoner. Draw a shuriken and return it as a free action until you have an NI number of chickens. Use Dragonfire Inspiration/Incite Rage/Incite Frenzy for an army of flaming chickens which cannot die. (If their BAB is too low to hit, take kensai levels and bring a war chanter cohort with your BAB infused in him). As a variation, use Fell Drain area spells on the chickens and take that feat which causes undead you create to explode with negative energy when destroyed.
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2009, 12:08:17 PM » |
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I feel that the answer should somehow involve hitting them all with Otto's Irresistible Dance. Something something half-elf diplomancer, group hug/touch attack, dance party! The encounter is done, pop a stereo out of your bag, bust a move in cheesy-yet-not-gloating fashion. Bonus points if you find out what kind of music Sam likes and get her to dance with you... because that's really what we're optimizing for right?
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2009, 12:49:06 PM » |
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2009, 01:10:59 PM » |
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i can't believe i'm the first one to suggest diplomancer. and make sure to have your character ask Sam's on a date as the diplomacy check, or immediately following it.
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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2009, 01:17:09 PM » |
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i can't believe i'm the first one to suggest diplomancer.
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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2009, 01:41:18 PM » |
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Given that PCs aren't affected by diplomacy, wouldn't a diplomancer be out of the question?
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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2009, 02:04:15 PM » |
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Plain-Jane wizard 20.Tack on some ToB afterwards for some security. Alternately, a black ethergaunt with a few wizard levels.
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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2009, 02:08:11 PM » |
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Play an arseplomancer. Unless she has a very twisted sense of humor, I doubt this is going to get any bonus points from Sam. Play a chicken-infested commoner. Draw a shuriken and return it as a free action until you have an NI number of chickens. Use Dragonfire Inspiration/Incite Rage/Incite Frenzy for an army of flaming chickens which cannot die. (If their BAB is too low to hit, take kensai levels and bring a war chanter cohort with your BAB infused in him). As a variation, use Fell Drain area spells on the chickens and take that feat which causes undead you create to explode with negative energy when destroyed.
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
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« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2009, 02:16:44 PM » |
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i can't believe i'm the first one to suggest diplomancer.
You're not that is odd i was posting after reading some of page 1, there was no pg 2 yet, and it didn't even tell me there were new posts since i hit reply. sorry didn't mean to steal your thunder. |
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« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2009, 02:40:35 PM » |
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I second the chicken-infested commoner route.  I recommend as many commoner levels as possible while still guaranteeing initiative. Nothing impresses the ladies like a guy with a sense of humor.  |
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« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2009, 03:12:06 PM » |
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Nothing impresses the ladies like a guy with a sense of humor. ...that can produce chickens out of thin air. |
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« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2009, 03:27:06 PM » |
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Play an arseplomancer. Unless she has a very twisted sense of humor, I doubt this is going to get any bonus points from Sam. Totally worth it though, the table would have a minute of silence, before everyone falls over laughing. Play a chicken-infested commoner. Draw a shuriken and return it as a free action until you have an NI number of chickens. Use Dragonfire Inspiration/Incite Rage/Incite Frenzy for an army of flaming chickens which cannot die. (If their BAB is too low to hit, take kensai levels and bring a war chanter cohort with your BAB infused in him). As a variation, use Fell Drain area spells on the chickens and take that feat which causes undead you create to explode with negative energy when destroyed.
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« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2009, 04:10:23 PM » |
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Given that PCs aren't affected by diplomacy, wouldn't a diplomancer be out of the question?
The half-elf bard 1 soothing voice isn't technically a diplomacy check. It uses a diplomacy check to set the DC, but it's a... well actually that's not really well defined. I'm not sure if it's even a bardic music effect. It functions like fascinate, has an effect like calm emotions, but doesn't state that it's a mind effect. In any event, I suggest ditching the whole thing and playing strip poker instead. |
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« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2009, 04:40:12 PM » |
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Darkstalker + Mindblank + out of control hide check + HiPS + Flat-footed immunity + that one psionic power that lets you act as an immediate action = hide and never be seen no matter what. Kill at your own discretion. Might need to combine with some anti-AoE ability. Basically drag it out as long as they want to try and find you.
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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2009, 06:37:39 PM » |
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Darkstalker + Mindblank + out of control hide check + HiPS + Flat-footed immunity + that one psionic power that lets you act as an immediate action = hide and never be seen no matter what. Kill at your own discretion. Might need to combine with some anti-AoE ability. Basically drag it out as long as they want to try and find you.
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OOC-well for that matter he could just ride on my sword, that's about 15' OOC - That's what SHE said! But, otherwise, that works for me, if you guys are willing. |
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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2009, 06:50:20 PM » |
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Go with the Dark Template and surround yourself in an antimagic field. Dark Template gets HiPS as (Ex) and the AMF won't let their telepathy detect you.
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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2009, 06:52:38 PM » |
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Darkstalker + Mindblank + out of control hide check + HiPS + Flat-footed immunity + that one psionic power that lets you act as an immediate action = hide and never be seen no matter what. Kill at your own discretion. Might need to combine with some anti-AoE ability. Basically drag it out as long as they want to try and find you.
Doesn't Mindsight still find you, essentially? Mindblank blocks that, I think. |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
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« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2009, 07:12:21 PM » |
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I'd make a Chrono Legionnaire-style arcane (Multispell-spam) or psionic (รก la the original) Teleport-by attacker with the last 10 levels taken in Eternal Blade to give you the Oh Shit-button of Island in Time and some more interesting charges to use (Initiator Level 20 by the end of it, with full access to Iron Heart, White Raven, Diamond Mind & Devoted Spirit). Allows you to remain in control and take your time with this.
Alternatively, someone who layeth the Smackdown in melee; just being a melee combatant guarantees that you'll be fine. Just a classic Cheater of Mystra, with all the Contingencies (Craft Contingent Spell) in place just in case. Anti-Magic Field should give you pretty good protection and having all your buffs on inside it should mean you'll never be in any danger. And if they manage to Disjunction the AMF, a Crafted Contingency goes off and creates another one - again, you can fight at your terms and never actually risk anything.
One more interesting option would be a psionic character using that Psy War-Power whose name I cannot remember that moves you and one opponent to a private battleground - then just take them all out one by one.
Bonus points for Charming/Dominating Sam's character in the start and keeping her alive throughout the battle.
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