Gorbash
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« Reply #200 on: October 31, 2008, 02:58:52 PM » |
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Heavy Flail, of course!
Well, I'm not sure if I will go Awesome Smite, it was just an idea, because I can trip with Heavy Flail, so I figured why not... That's why I'm asking here, which combat feats should I take?
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« Reply #201 on: October 31, 2008, 03:14:21 PM » |
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Persistable Cleric Spells: here are Some that are Persistable..... Level 0 Detect Magic - PHB Detect Poison - PHB Read Magic - PHB Level 1 Bless - PHB Bane - PHB Comprehend Languages - PHB Deathwatch - PHB Detect Secret Doors (Knowledge) - PHB Disguise Self (Trickery) - PHB Divine Favor - PHBEntropic Shield - PHB Expeditous Retreat (Celerity from CD) - PHB Grave Strike - CV Longstrider (Travel) - PHB Obscuring Mist - PHB Raptor's Sight (Sky) - RotW Rooftop Strider (City) - RoD Scholar's Touch - RoD Level 2 Detect Thoughts (Knowledge) - PHBDivine Insight - CV Find Traps - PHB Healing Lorecall - CVProduce Flame (Fire) - PHB Stone Fist - RoS Zeal (Competition) - CD Level 3 Blessed Aim - CD Briar Web - CD Cloak of Bravery (Cleric, Courage) - CW Detect Thoughts (Inquisition) - PHB Helping Hand - PHB Locate Object - PHB Meld into Stone - PHB Prayer - PHB Recitation (Purification) - CD Ring of Blades - CA Visage of the Deity, Lesser - CDWind Wall - PHB Level 4 Aerial Alacrity (Sky) - RotW Assay Resistance - CA Beast Claws - CD Consumptive Field - LMDimensional Anchor - PHB Divine Power - PHBDoomtide - CD Fear (Tyranny) - PHB Fire Shield (Sun) - PHB Minor Creation (Creation) - PHB Recitation - CD Weapon of the Deity - CD Level 5 Dance of the Unicorn (Purification) - CD Dragon Breath - CDRighteous Might - PHBSubvert Planar Essence - CD Tree Stride (Celerity from CD) - PHB Level 6 Anti-life Shell - PHB Antimagic Field (Magic, Protection) - PHB Blade Barrier - PHB Repel Wood (Plant) - PHB Visage of the Deity - CD Level 7 Control Weather - PHB Earthquake (Earth) - PHB Ethereal Jaunt - PHB Righteous Wrath of the Faithful - CD Spell Turning (Luck, Magic) - PHB Urban Shield (City) - RoD Level 8 Antimagic Field - PHB City's Might (City) - RoD Crown of Glory (Glory) - CD Earthquake - PHB Holy Aura - PHB Iron Body (Earth) - PHB Lion's Roar (Courage) - CW Mastery of the Sky (Sky) - RotW Shield of Law - PHB Stormrage - CDUnholy Aura - PHB Level 9 Animate City (City) - RoD Choose Destiny (Destiny) - RoDForesight (Knowledge, Oracle, Fate) - PHB Greater Cloak of Bravery (Courage) - CW Prismatic Sphere (Protection, Sun) - PHB Shapechange (Animal) - PHBVisage of the Deity, Greater - CD  |
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AfterCrescent
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« Reply #202 on: October 31, 2008, 03:15:15 PM » |
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If you can get a speed boosting item and the Tooth of Savvnok (ToM), you could go charging smite route. In that case, it might be a good idea to pick up shock trooper too. Awesome smite lets you trip regardless of weapon, so combine the two to push them away, trip them, and dump your AC so you're guaranteed to hit...
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Gorbash
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« Reply #203 on: October 31, 2008, 03:57:59 PM » |
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When using Heedless Charge maneuvers, when I take a penalty using power attack, do I get bonuses on AC and on damage, or only on AC? Level 4
Assay Resistance - CA I'm not sure whether persisting this spell is a good idea, since that +10 bonus applies to only one specific creature. |
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« Reply #204 on: October 31, 2008, 04:27:02 PM » |
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Reread Heedless Charge. Instead of taking the Power attack penalty to your attack bonus, you take it to your AC. otherwise, it functions just like Power attack.
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Gorbash
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« Reply #205 on: November 01, 2008, 11:07:01 PM » |
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My DM (curse his oily hide) just banned Bone Knight from his campaign, just because they're from Eberron. Even though I wouldn't summon undead or ride that stupid mount, I just wanted the uber cool armor, but noooooo.  So, now what? Any suggestions? Full spellcasting, preferably, melee oriented, but anything cheesy goes, if they're not setting specific. I was trying to be nice, but now I'm thinking about taking Persist Spell. And I know I'm a bit late to adress this post, but I just saw it... You can take domains without worshipping specific gods. It is in the PHB. You basically worship an ideal and so can pick anything you want. That works only if you're not devoted to a particular deity, unfortunately. Yeah, I'd like Beast domain for my Cleric, but it doesn't work that way... |
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« Reply #206 on: November 02, 2008, 01:14:53 AM » |
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10 levels of Divine Oracle? Immunity to surprise is sexy.
You could go 6 levels of contemplative for more domains and then ~5 levels of something else.
If you really want something cheesy... Dweomerkeeper - Check the Complete Divine Web Enhancement.
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Gorbash
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« Reply #207 on: November 02, 2008, 01:09:35 AM » |
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Yes, I'll think about Divine Oracle, nice class. Saddly, not melee oriented. :/ I'm actually surprised at the lack of melee cleric classes. Is Dread Witch worth it? It's kinda fluffy, but isn't fear kinda useless later on?
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« Reply #208 on: November 02, 2008, 02:38:34 AM » |
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That thing of worshipping an ideal, man, i effin hate it! My players constantly have no god so they can cherry pick their favourite domains. Which is bad, 99% of the time unflavoured and something along the lines of "AMG SHAZAM I R CAPTN MARELV!"!"!"!"
Personally, i am more than ok with adding a domain to a god's available domains than letting a character worship an "ideal".
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Gorbash
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« Reply #209 on: November 02, 2008, 07:05:13 AM » |
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Well, nothing's stopping you from saying 'you must have a god'. I generally dislike taking nonflavored stuff to get cheesy... But Fury domain is kinda nice, it goes with Hextor, so I made my DM let me use it. But, still can't find the right prestige class. :/ |
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« Reply #210 on: November 02, 2008, 12:21:29 PM » |
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See if he'll let you reflavor Church Inquisitor to LE. Same principle, except the Evil guys don't trust the good ones.  |
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« Reply #211 on: November 16, 2008, 09:07:43 PM » |
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Seems as thought he "Spoilers" deals on spells and gear exploded or died.
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« Reply #212 on: November 16, 2008, 10:15:35 PM » |
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Seems as thought he "Spoilers" deals on spells and gear exploded or died.
They seem to be working for me, now. Anyone else having a problem with them? |
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« Reply #213 on: November 17, 2008, 01:48:12 PM » |
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But Fury domain is kinda nice
I first read that as the "Furry domain", and I thought... oh god, get your Furries out of my D&D! |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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« Reply #214 on: December 22, 2008, 06:54:08 AM » |
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Maybe already mentioned, but worth some attention.
A Wererabbit/hare/dog/cat/... Aasimar/Neraphim/something with the Otherwordly feat and Domain Spontaneity. (sp?)
This gives you access to the Transformation Domain (since you're a shapeshifter), and with your Outsider type, you can start abusing Polymorph, which you got from the Transformation Domain. Add some Ordained Champion and top it off with Animal Devotion for Ape's Fury for up to +8 sacred STR. The LA can hurt ( up to +2), but you're a melee Cleric and LA can probably be bought off. If not, all the more reason to be a were-small innocent creature to keep LA down.
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« Reply #215 on: December 30, 2008, 06:55:31 AM » |
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Don't Changelings have the subtype as well?
Maybe Shifters too, not too sure on that one...
(a friend currently has my ECS)
Also, I believe there was a way to pick up the shapeshifter subtype if you travel to a certain plane, I believe it was mentioned in the old King of Smack thread over on 339 or one of the similar threads...
EDIT: the name Karasuthra comes to mind, not entirely sure though...
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« Reply #216 on: December 30, 2008, 07:38:00 AM » |
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Changelings have the Shapechanger subtype, yes.
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« Reply #217 on: January 06, 2009, 12:52:48 PM » |
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The problem with were-outsiders, Gawain is that, RaW, they're not legal. You have to be humanoid or giant to grab lycanthropy. However, you can still take inherited lycanthropy (LA+3 + racial HD) and Otherworldly. If that's up your boat, it's possible. Another alternative, if your DM allows it is to take Otherworldly as a changeling. Cuts off any LA. Barring that, a technical way to do it is to grab the Human Heritage feat from RoD and then Otherworldly. You'd need flaws of course, but those are the ways I've figured for it to work.
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« Reply #218 on: January 06, 2009, 01:02:41 PM » |
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Don't Changelings have the subtype as well?
Maybe Shifters too, not too sure on that one...
(a friend currently has my ECS)
Also, I believe there was a way to pick up the shapeshifter subtype if you travel to a certain plane, I believe it was mentioned in the old King of Smack thread over on 339 or one of the similar threads...
EDIT: the name Karmasuthra comes to mind, not entirely sure though...
Fixed that for you. You were talking about Changelings after all.  |
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« Reply #219 on: January 06, 2009, 02:25:35 PM » |
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No, I seriously remember a plane or a part of a plane named Karasuthra or something eerily similar. I know it exists, I just can't remember the source since I lost my original 'King of Smack'-variant build... EDIT: Found it  The Were Glade, located in Karasuthra, third layer of the Beastlands. Check your Planar Handbook, page 164, for the details |
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