The Cantina

I wanted to bring this up since Torin asked about my char's armor I had two questions to ask, but first to explain a few things before I ask it:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Phase_I_clone_trooper_armor
"With some design assistance from Jango Fett, the basic armor design became composed of twenty form-fitting plates of lightweight plastoid-alloy composite, sealed to a black bodysuit and weighed just under forty kilograms. Because the armor would be used by an army of physically identical clones, only one size was needed. It loosely resembled Mandalorian shock trooper armor"
The Republic Clone Commando had clone armor (Katarn-Class clone armor) which was a version of the clone armor but resembled even more the Mandalorian Shock Trooper, and were personallly trained by Mandalorians the Cuy'val Dar and were taught Mando'a and the mandalorian heritage and culture, they are Mandalorians.

In the Republic Commando Novels by Karen Traviss (Hard Contact, Triple Zero, And True Colors, Order 66) in paticular Hard Contact when the clone commandos are seen by non GAR people on the planet Qiilura where a mandalorian, Ghez Hokan, had been seen in his red Beskar'gam armor (traditional Mandalorian Shock trooper armor like Jango and Boba Fett) by many of the population, and the Jedi Etain concerning Darman the clone commando that is met:

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Etain could see the distinctive full-face Mandalorian helmet of Ghez Hokan.
The sinister T-shaped slit told her all she needed to know. [but really it was Darman in his commando armor]
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Well, it wasn’t Ghez Hokan. That was all she could tell.
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[Darman] realized how frightening he looked

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She watched him attach the armor plates, and when he finally replaced his helmet he knew he didn’t care how conspicuous he looked in it, because he wasn’t going to take it off again in a hurry. He needed that edge.
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“Blasters. Explosives.” The Weequay made an indication of great width with his hands.“Big gun. They got armor with knives in gloves.”
“Describe.”
“Like yours.”
“What do you mean, like mine?”
Guta-Nay indicated his head and made a T-shape with his fingers. “Your helmet.”
It was difficult to take in. Guta-Nay was an inarticulate brute, but there was no ambiguity in his description. “Are you saying they were wearing Mandalorian armor?”
“Yeah. That it.”
“You’re sure about that.”
“Sure.”
“Anything else?” Hokan wondered how he expected this creature to be able to assess intelligence.
“Anything else unusual?”
Guta-Nay concentrated on the question as if his life depended on it, which it did not; Hokan would kill him anyway. “They all look the same.”
“They were wearing uniforms?”
“No, the men. Same faces.”
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There was a man in armor very similar to their own, standing with a familiar helmet tucked under one arm. He was middle-aged and his hard face and confident attitude said clearly that he was a Mandalorian. It had to be Ghez Hokan.
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How dare the Republic use Jango Fett to create this abomination. How had Fett let this happen? Hokan edged closer. He could see a body in the grass now. He could see light-colored, dirt-caked metallic armor very similar in design to his own, but bulkier and more complex.
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I was reading in the Scum & Villany book p.48 under Beskar'gam:

***I am curious if my char's clone commando armor fits under the same advantage as listed in the S&V about being granted favorable circumstances on persuasion checks to intimidate as the true mandalorian Beskar'gam armor?***

My other question is based upon the books too concerning the clone commando armor. It is quoted many times as being "blast-resistant" or as the beskar'gam quote says "strong enough to deflect blaster fire"
Because mandalorian beskar'gam armor and the clone commando armor are designed to be so similar I was curious:

Here's info on the mandalorian side:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalorian_armor

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Throughout Mandalorian history, three major features remained constant in Mandalorian Armor design:

The wearer was protected from the majority of all blaster fire. Armor made of actual Mandalorian iron, which could also deflect blaster bolts, made it lightsaber-resistant.
The helmets almost always possessed a T-shaped visor and a sophisticated heads-up display (HUD).
Mandalorian warriors decorated their armor to reflect personal accomplishments, clan affiliation, or simply personal preference. They often repainted their armor to reflect rank, clan, and possibly the current terrain. They were also known to paint their armor in the traditional colors that represented specific causes the individual might currently be undertaking. The colors, however, did not always have a specific meaning. Sometimes they were just colors that the particular Mandalorian liked. Some Mandalorians wore pieces of armor to honor relatives, both dead and alive. As of the clone wars however, these colors were known to have significance:
Gray=Mourning a Lost Love, Red=Honoring a Father, Black=Justice, Gold=Vengeance, Green=Duty, Blue=Reliability
Mandalorian armor was traditionally made out of almost indestructible Mandalorian Iron (beskar), but this was rare and expensive, so many Mandalorians, such as Jango and Boba Fett, opted for less durable materials instead, such as durasteel or duraplast. The Galactic Empire mined much of the beskar off of the surface of Mandalore, so for a time it was nearly impossible to get any. However the Yuuzhan vong blasted craters deep into Mandalore that were later found to have opened up several new Beskar mines. The name for the armor in Mandalorian, beskar'gam, meant Iron skin, or Iron carapace(for Mando members without normal skin), because the Mandalorian Iron was a crucial part of the armor design for milennia, until just before the Clone Wars. The secret of producing armor made from Mandalorian iron was kept within the Mandalorian clans for years. Some Mandalorians would also wear capes on the outside of their armor.

Boba Fett's armor.The classic Mandalorian design could also be seen in the armor of clone troopers, and evolved from the basic clone trooper and commando Katarn armor specs to those of the armor of Imperial stormtroopers. The ARC clone troopers and a few commanders wore Kama, the long almost skirt-like extensions from their waist, which were parts of older Mandalorian armor design and often contained pockets for hidden weapons.

There were a few special suits of mention from the Galactic Civil War. Some of the most famous were worn by the bounty hunters Boba Fett and Jodo Kast, although unlike traditional Mandalorian armor theirs were made from durasteel. Rumors also told of possibilities of crafting a set of Mandalorian armor in the dreaded Death Watch Bunker on Endor. Montross wore his armor while dueling Jango Fett on Kohlma, unfortunately the Bando Gora clawed him to death despite his armor.
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in Hard Contact

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A clone trooper settled down next to him, squeezing into the gap and briefly clunking a shoulder plate against his. They glanced at each other. Darman rarely had any contact with the other clones: commandos trained apart from everyone, including ARC troopers. The trooper’s armor was white, lighter, less resistant; commandos enjoyed upgraded protection. And Darman displayed no rank colors.
But they both knew exactly who and what they were.
“Nice Deece,” the trooper said enviously. He was looking at the DC-17: troopers were issued the heavier, lower-spec rifle, the DC-15. “Ion pulse blaster, RPG anti-armor,and sniper?”
“Yeah.” Every item of his gear was manufactured to a higher spec. A trooper’s life was less valuable than a commando’s. It was the way things were, and Darman had never questioned it—not for long, anyway. “Full house.”
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in Triple Zero

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The cabin was silent once more. Fi slid his helmet back on, sealed the collar, and concentratedon the artificial horizonof his HUD to convince his stomach which way was up. The Mark III Katarn armor now had more enhancements and was rated blaster-resistant up to light cannon rounds. Every op was full of new surprises from GAR Procurement—like a birthday, according to Skirata, although Fi, like all his brothers, had never celebrated one.
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obviously there are weakness in the armor like under the arm pits and the neck area and wear the black undersuit is more exposed-
But my other question is whether or not you will allow my commando armor to be blaster-resistent too as in the books and stats that show up in the starwars expanded universe.
This could be done by DR of 10 for Durasteel as found on the statistics for substances SE Corerule Book p152 and the difference if the damage exceeded the DR of 10 would then be considered bludgeoning (ie from intense impact, shockwave, etc),

or complete invulnerability agaisnt energy damage by ranged weapons large to small (heavy and exotic being excluded),

(I figure my first suggestion is more accurate and balancing for SWSE)

I could find more quotes and stuff if need be.

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