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« Reply #360 on: September 13, 2010, 04:27:51 PM » |
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Yeah, it's kind of funny how well-balanced the holiday special stuff is, considering WotC's normal varying power levels. I have to assume that they showed it off to the whole office, or something.
Anyway, cheshire cats can swap out their racial weapon focuses for feline feats, which is cool.
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« Reply #361 on: September 13, 2010, 04:54:46 PM » |
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Continuing the derail, I have this urge to build some kind of Psywar/Primeval cheshire cat just so that there's a giant, vicious, sabre-toothed cheshire cat in the party. Horribly unoptimized, though.
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So you end up stuck in an endless loop, unable to act, forever.
In retrospect, much like Keanu Reeves.
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« Reply #362 on: September 13, 2010, 08:31:47 PM » |
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Gotta smack myself for not including the Fanged Ring earlier. IUS plus INA plus Con damage on a critical hit, for 10K? Is there a monk or unarmed swordsage out there who WOULDN'T want it?
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« Reply #363 on: September 14, 2010, 08:28:48 AM » |
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From the cat special, the collar of perpetual attendance is unlimited unseen servant for only 2k. Wait...can Factotums use the feline only skills if they aren't felines? |
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« Reply #364 on: September 14, 2010, 11:06:04 AM » |
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From the cat special, the collar of perpetual attendance is unlimited unseen servant for only 2k. Wait...can Factotums use the feline only skills if they aren't felines? Yes, which is hilarious. |
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« Reply #365 on: September 14, 2010, 04:12:34 PM » |
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Not sure, actually, since it says "can only be used by felines with ranks in the skill", so even if you get ranks you might not be able to use them without polymorph et cetera.
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« Reply #366 on: September 14, 2010, 04:19:47 PM » |
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At last, a reason to actually play a catfolk!
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« Reply #367 on: September 14, 2010, 04:26:28 PM » |
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At last, a reason to actually play a catfolk!
You could just use a shifter. Many groups apparently cannot view them as anything other than catgirls. Yes, even the ones who grow wings. |
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My workDeviantArtCurrent gamesThe tier system in a nutshell: Tier 6: A cartographer. Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman. Tier 4: An expert marksman. Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left. Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy. Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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« Reply #368 on: September 14, 2010, 04:33:13 PM » |
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At last, a reason to actually play a catfolk!
You could just use a shifter. Many groups apparently cannot view them as anything other than catgirls. Yes, even the ones who grow wings. ! |
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« Reply #369 on: September 14, 2010, 04:45:58 PM » |
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At last, a reason to actually play a catfolk!
You could just use a shifter. Many groups apparently cannot view them as anything other than catgirls. Yes, even the ones who grow wings. ! You just reminded me of Kat Manx. Who in the original sentai footage was a bird-girl. As a result, she ends up having an attack called "Cat Feathers".  |
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My workDeviantArtCurrent gamesThe tier system in a nutshell: Tier 6: A cartographer. Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman. Tier 4: An expert marksman. Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left. Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy. Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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« Reply #370 on: September 14, 2010, 07:20:21 PM » |
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Oh, come on, guys...this is what UMD was made for.
"I'm a cat. No, really. Trust me. Meow."
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« Reply #371 on: September 14, 2010, 07:53:05 PM » |
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Oh, come on, guys...this is what UMD was made for.
"I'm a cat. No, really. Trust me. Meow."
That's fine for the items, but the skills and feats aren't magical devices.  Mostly they're mediocre jokes, but one of the feats lets you act as if one size larger for grappling purposes and damage dealt during grapples, which is pretty decent for a grapple feat. (And Handle Humanoid is kind of broken if a DM allows it, but you don't need to be catfolk for that anyway - most of us just call it diplomancy.) |
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« Reply #372 on: September 17, 2010, 02:10:52 AM » |
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A few more: (from http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/MagicItems.pdf ) Catspaws: +10 competance to move silently + unlimited free featherfall for 6.2k Falcon Cloak: 10,000 gp, polymorph into a falcon for 1 hour/day, divided as you please. +10 competence to spot Reflex weapon enhancement: +1 enhancement, gives combat reflexes From the cat special, the collar of perpetual attendance is unlimited unseen servant for only 2k. The "Don't Mind Me" feat would be interesting if someone adapted the Killer Gnome for, let say... a Tibbit... |
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« Reply #373 on: September 17, 2010, 02:28:56 AM » |
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From the cat special, the collar of perpetual attendance is unlimited unseen servant for only 2k. The "Don't Mind Me" feat would be interesting if someone adapted the Killer Gnome for, let say... a Tibbit... This is becoming your favorite article, isn't it? |
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« Reply #374 on: September 17, 2010, 11:48:57 AM » |
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From the cat special, the collar of perpetual attendance is unlimited unseen servant for only 2k. The "Don't Mind Me" feat would be interesting if someone adapted the Killer Gnome for, let say... a Tibbit... This is becoming your favorite article, isn't it? To be fair, it opens up a whole slew of wonderful RP possibilities and makes taking a cat familiar much more appealing. I'd always wished they had done something like this to make the familiars more important to play beyond ubersquishy exp sponges. |
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« Reply #375 on: September 17, 2010, 11:51:28 AM » |
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From the cat special, the collar of perpetual attendance is unlimited unseen servant for only 2k. The "Don't Mind Me" feat would be interesting if someone adapted the Killer Gnome for, let say... a Tibbit... This is becoming your favorite article, isn't it? To be fair, it opens up a whole slew of wonderful RP possibilities and makes taking a cat familiar much more appealing. I'd always wished they had done something like this to make the familiars more important to play beyond ubersquishy exp sponges. Umm... while I agree on the XP sponge thing (tis' a stupid mechanic. Why don't druids have to suffer this BS?)... I disagree about familiars not being useful. You just need to be creative, and look at their abilities. It's like having a whole other set of actions you can take in a round. Especially with Share Spells, or if you take UMD ranks or something, they really can be quite powerful. |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
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« Reply #376 on: September 24, 2010, 06:30:26 PM » |
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Complete Warrior, page 134. Armor of the Unending Hunt, 21,500 gp. +2 mithrail chainmail which grants immunity to fatigue and exhaustion. Bring on the Spelldance  |
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the most effective optimization is the one you can actually get away with.  (A group of nerds are called a murder because like crows we are anti-social, like shiny things, and often squack at each other over nothing for hours) I often have to remind people not to underrate divination. The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
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« Reply #377 on: September 24, 2010, 06:43:50 PM » |
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better yet ... from Complete Champion: Sandals of the Vagabond , 4000gp Immune to fatigue  |
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« Reply #378 on: September 29, 2010, 04:13:45 PM » |
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You can still become fatigued while wearing Sandals of the Vagabond. They only make you immune to Exhaustion. Effects that would normally Exhaust you just fatigue you instead (or extends the time you remain fatigued if you are already).
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« Reply #379 on: September 29, 2010, 09:49:07 PM » |
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From the cat special, the collar of perpetual attendance is unlimited unseen servant for only 2k. The "Don't Mind Me" feat would be interesting if someone adapted the Killer Gnome for, let say... a Tibbit... This is becoming your favorite article, isn't it? To be fair, it opens up a whole slew of wonderful RP possibilities and makes taking a cat familiar much more appealing. I'd always wished they had done something like this to make the familiars more important to play beyond ubersquishy exp sponges. Umm... while I agree on the XP sponge thing (tis' a stupid mechanic. Why don't druids have to suffer this BS?)... I disagree about familiars not being useful. You just need to be creative, and look at their abilities. It's like having a whole other set of actions you can take in a round. Especially with Share Spells, or if you take UMD ranks or something, they really can be quite powerful. Oh, I agree with you, I just haven't ever gotten to play in a high enough level game to really make use of share spells, UMD, etc, and I'm typically rather frightened to risk the Exp loss. |
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