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« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2009, 01:58:25 PM » |
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You should be respectful of people because they deserve it. Not because they reciprocate.
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« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2009, 01:59:56 PM » |
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You should be respectful of people because they deserve it. Not because they reciprocate.
Respect must be earned, it is not an innate right. That works if you consider respect a thing that costs to give, and not as something that improves you. I don't always get there, but I try. |
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« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2009, 02:02:50 PM » |
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Correct but people get the beneft of doubt when you first meet them and sometimes you salute the uniform not the man
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« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2009, 02:07:54 PM » |
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It takes respect to get respect. Not in the "if you don't respect me I won't respect you" but rather, if I treat people with nominal respect I will establish that I am a person who believes in fair treatment.
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« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2009, 02:09:54 PM » |
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I will agree that people get the benefit of the doubt when you first meet them, but I have no need of being respected by those I have no respect for and I have never saluted the uniform when I knew the man and didn't respect him.
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« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2009, 02:11:27 PM » |
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I have a problem with your idea of being polite to other players. When I was a DM (back in 7th grade) I had no respect for my players, when I was a player (still 7th grade) I STILL didn't have respect for the players. Maybe this makes me a bad person, but if I am not shown respect I do not show respect.
No, this shows that you were in 7th grade. We mentioned but perhaps should've clarified that our advice was (is) for adults. Youth have a different perspective and lack the wisdom to realize how idiotic they are. So much of the bad advice is simply a lack of maturity. |
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« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2009, 02:13:22 PM » |
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I will agree that people get the benefit of the doubt when you first meet them, but I have no need of being respected by those I have no respect for and I have never saluted the uniform when I knew the man and didn't respect him.
the operative part is "when I knew the man" I have spent my life working with groups of people others find repellant, by aproaching with firmness and respect I have established relationships with them that others are unable to. |
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« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2009, 02:18:32 PM » |
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I can't believe there isn't any caveman/astronaut or Gandalf/Yoda controversy yet.
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« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2009, 02:34:21 PM » |
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I will agree that people get the benefit of the doubt when you first meet them, but I have no need of being respected by those I have no respect for and I have never saluted the uniform when I knew the man and didn't respect him.
the operative part is "when I knew the man" I have spent my life working with groups of people others find repellant, by aproaching with firmness and respect I have established relationships with them that others are unable to. Well to be honest I don't salute any uniforms, I was speaking more along the lines of people with power over me in general. |
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« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2009, 02:37:06 PM » |
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I get that.
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« Reply #90 on: March 19, 2009, 02:40:04 PM » |
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I was just clarifying.  As for the other part, that's a plus on your part but there's a difference between working with groups of people and choosing to game with them. I refuse to game with people that I don't like because it lessens my enjoyment of the game. Since the whole point of gaming is to enjoy myself, I see no reason to not do so to my fullest extent. |
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« Reply #91 on: March 19, 2009, 02:42:38 PM » |
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I think youmight be limiting yourself. If you try to understand people many times you discover good things you night otherwise have missed. Be open and fearless, that's my advice.
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« Reply #92 on: March 19, 2009, 03:07:09 PM » |
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We have different views on the value of being open and fearless. I'll not drag this thread down any further with my particular personality quirks so I'll leave it at that.
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« Reply #93 on: March 19, 2009, 03:17:27 PM » |
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I can't believe there isn't any caveman/astronaut or Gandalf/Yoda controversy yet.
Well, for starters, GET OUT OF THE PIRATE CAMP! Ninjas are far better. |
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« Reply #94 on: March 19, 2009, 03:24:38 PM » |
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I was just clarifying. As for the other part, that's a plus on your part but there's a difference between working with groups of people and choosing to game with them. I refuse to game with people that I don't like because it lessens my enjoyment of the game. Since the whole point of gaming is to enjoy myself, I see no reason to not do so to my fullest extent. The 4th episode in the series is exactly this- how to choose the right group and head off the problems before you start. |
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« Reply #95 on: March 19, 2009, 04:54:20 PM » |
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I don't give the benefit of the doubt. I give respect when I am shown respect.
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« Reply #96 on: March 19, 2009, 04:58:01 PM » |
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That sounds like a pretty good idea, Emissary. So good that maybe everybody should do it. Except if they did, who would respect whom?
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« Reply #97 on: March 19, 2009, 04:58:37 PM » |
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Yeah, so that's wrong. Don't do that.
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« Reply #98 on: March 19, 2009, 04:58:55 PM » |
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I don't give the benefit of the doubt. I give respect when I am shown respect.
Why? And who has to show respect first? And how can you determine if you're shown respect? Do you go into a situation assuming you won't be respected? |
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« Reply #99 on: March 19, 2009, 05:02:13 PM » |
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We all posted at he same time we are not ganging up.
Please don't feel like that
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