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« Reply #120 on: November 27, 2008, 12:27:24 PM » |
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Problem is, I'll only ever have 4 levels of Wizard, which means the familiar is going to be the valedictorian of suckland. I figure I'll just take the 3hp and ignore the familiar from then on in. (if I really have to, I'll just have it follow along with the wagon/in my backpack)
+2 fort is better than 3 hp past first level or so.
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« Reply #121 on: November 27, 2008, 12:32:58 PM » |
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Mirror Image is better than Invisibility. Except for, y'know, they can see you. Not much use for surprise attacks. Exactly!  Last time I had a similar build, I used invisibility to get in close to deliver the glass cannon shot. This time, I'm hoping my cannon's at least made of plexiglass!  Kinda moot, that point. If you know it's time to cast Invisibility, you know it's time to cast Mirror Image. For a familiar, IF you can get the Dragon option of a Hummingbird for +4 initiative, that one rocks. Especially with the Elf racial sub lvl for Wizard.
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« Reply #122 on: November 27, 2008, 01:23:21 PM » |
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Here's the thing. Mirror Image may be better than Invisibility in combat because it stays after you attack once. However, there is still a chance you'll get hit, there are AoE things, et cetera. With Invisibility, you cannot be seen without magic and the like. Stealth missions, for example, get much harder if you're trying to substitute invisibility with Mirror Image.
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« Reply #123 on: November 27, 2008, 01:42:44 PM » |
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Problem is, I'll only ever have 4 levels of Wizard, which means the familiar is going to be the valedictorian of suckland. I figure I'll just take the 3hp and ignore the familiar from then on in. (if I really have to, I'll just have it follow along with the wagon/in my backpack) BTW, here's the online character sheet: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets/view.php?id=93596It doesn't even matter. You get all the good familiar benefits really early, anyway, and it's hit points and BAB are always based on yours, not your wizard level.
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« Reply #124 on: November 27, 2008, 01:51:39 PM » |
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Here's the thing. Mirror Image may be better than Invisibility in combat because it stays after you attack once. However, there is still a chance you'll get hit, there are AoE things, et cetera. With Invisibility, you cannot be seen without magic and the like. Stealth missions, for example, get much harder if you're trying to substitute invisibility with Mirror Image.
In stealth missions (which are rare, in my experience at least), you're still screwed by Listen checks. And you'll have to very fast, since it only lasts 1 min/lvl. Of course, for the price of a 2nd lvl scroll, this discussion is trivial.
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« Reply #125 on: November 27, 2008, 02:55:19 PM » |
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Which version of mirrior is actually mirror image + invisibilty.
Also, improved mirror image (or superior or whatever it is) > mirror image.
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« Reply #126 on: November 27, 2008, 02:58:20 PM » |
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« Reply #127 on: November 27, 2008, 03:11:52 PM » |
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« Reply #128 on: November 27, 2008, 03:22:23 PM » |
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Problem is, I'll only ever have 4 levels of Wizard, which means the familiar is going to be the valedictorian of suckland. Er, unless you swap the familiar for something else, then gain a new familiar with the Attain Familiar feat.
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« Reply #129 on: November 28, 2008, 08:22:57 AM » |
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Imp.Init is at level 4.  I need to learn how to read. Or at least wait to post until I get more sleep!  Problem is, I'll only ever have 4 levels of Wizard, which means the familiar is going to be the valedictorian of suckland. Er, unless you swap the familiar for something else, then gain a new familiar with the Attain Familiar feat. Yeah, ever since the PHB2 came out, I've had a hard time not taking Abrupt Jaunt. I remember a lot of the Completes on the OP's allowed list, but I don't remember about the PHB2.
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