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« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2008, 05:59:41 PM » |
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Yes, but it's one low level spell away (without any fear of exhausting you). Blindsight and immunities on the other hand, among other stuff, aren't.
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« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2008, 06:07:24 PM » |
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Yes, it IS worth it, to clarify.
How much CO should I pull on this puppy, peeps? :confused
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« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2008, 06:10:36 PM » |
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Yes, it IS worth it, to clarify.
How much CO should I pull on this puppy, peeps? :confused
Which puppy  ?
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« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2008, 08:14:52 PM » |
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All setting-specific sources are disallowed by default (but can be brought in on a case-by-case basis) Yeah, just unfortunately noticed this, must've looked over it when reading. So, for my case, will you allow Changelings and Recasters? If not that's totally fine, I can easily be a human and go straight Unseen Seer. Forget about this, I decided to just go human.
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« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2008, 10:10:20 PM » |
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Yes, it IS worth it, to clarify.
How much CO should I pull on this puppy, peeps? :confused
I'm of the firm opinion that an effective character can't be bad for the party.  Just don't start an optimization arms race, please? 
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« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2008, 10:32:18 PM » |
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Too late to apply?
I need to try out Tome of Battle before 4th Ed starts coming in full-force, so...something simple like Elf Warblade/Crusader shooting for Eternal Blade?
EDIT: Elven Crusader:
Crusader 1: Extra Granted Maneuver, Stone Power, EWP (Kusari-Gama or Spinning Sword) Crusader 2: Crusader 3: Stand Still Crusader 4: Crusader 5:
I know I want flaws, but I have to pick them.
Maneuvers 1 Crusader's Strike, Douse the Flames, Leading the Attack, Vanguard Strike, Charging Minotaur | Iron Guard's Glare 2 | Martial Spirit 3 Battle Leader's Charge 4 Charging Minotaur -> Tactical Strike 5 White Raven Tactics
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« Reply #66 on: May 22, 2008, 10:58:37 PM » |
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He said he'd checking this weekend, so you're certainly still able to apply. Welcome aboard the application train! That said, I finished my character, though I may make minor changes, according to what people say in the Min/Max board. Nonetheless, I give you Myrd Faust, Conjurer Sneak Extraordinaire. Myrd Faust Human Rogue 1/ Focused Conjurer 4
Medium Humanoid Hit Dice: 5d4 + 15 Initiative: +6 Speed: 30ft. Armor Class: 12 Touch: 12 Flat-footed: 10 Base Attack/Grapple: +2/+1 Attack: Quarterstaff -1 1d6 x2 B Dagger -1(+1) 1d4 19-20/x2 P/S Light Crossbow +4 1d8 19-20/x2 P Full Attack: See Above Space/Reach: 5ft./5ft. Class Abilities: Spellcasting, Focused Specialist, Abrupt Jaunt, Sneak Attack +1d6, Trapfinding Special Qualities: Murky Eyed, Noncombatant Saves: Fort +4 | Ref +5 | Will +3 Abilities: Str 8 | Dex 14 | Con 16 | Int 18 | Wis 8 | Cha 10 Skills: Appraise 12(8+4), Bluff 5, Concentration 11(8+3), Disable Device 12(8+4), Gather Information 5, Hide 6(4+2), Knowledge(arcana) 11(5+4+2), Knowledge(dungeoneering) 12(8+4), Search 9(5+4), Spellcraft 14(8+4), Spot 7(8-1), Use Magic Device 8 Feats: Able Learner(Human), Improved Initiative(Wizard (UA)), , Cloudy Conjuration(Flaw), Collegiate Wizard(Flaw) Extend Spell (1st), Metamagic School Focus (Conjuration) Environment: Dun Eamon Organization: The Hoods of Discretion Challenge Rating: 5 Alignment: LN Languages Spoken: Common, Draconic, Elven, Goblin, Undercommon Level Adjustment: N/A
Possessions: Healing Belt (750g) Heward's Handy Haversack (2000g) Lesser Metamagic Rod of Sculpting (3000g) Mwk. Tool(Spellcraft) (50g) Vest of Resistance +1 (1000g) Explorer's Outfit Quarterstaff Dagger (2g) Light Crossbow (35g) 20 Bolts (2g) 10 Candles (1s) 5 Pieces of Chalk (5c) 5 Map/Scroll Cases (5g) Bedroll (1s) Flint & Steel (1g) 5 oz. Ink (40g) Ink pen (1s) Mwk, Manacles (50g) 50 Parchments (10g) 5 Pitons (5s) 10ft Pole (2s) 50ft Silk Rope (10g) Waterskin x2 (2g) Signal Whistle (8s) 3 Acid Flasks (30g) Spell Component Pouch (5g) Spellbook (15g)
Gold Remaining: 1991g 1s 5c Weight Carried: 5lbs
Specialization: Conjuration Prohibited Schools DC mod: +4 Evocation ASF: 0% Enchantment Necromancy
Spells prepared: 0: Caltrops x3, Detect Magic, Silent Portal, Prestidigitation 1: Grease x2, Wall of Smoke, Mage Armor(Extended), Silent Image, Expeditious Retreat 2: Alter Self(Extended), Glitterdust(Extended), Web, Cloud of Bewilderment, Invisiblity, 3: 4: 5: 6: 7: 8: 9:
Spells known: 0: All wizard spells 1: Alarm, Benign Transposition, Buzzing Bee, Color Spray, Expeditious Retreat, Grease, Mage Armor, Obscuring Mist, Orb of Acid(Lesser), Protection from Evil, Ray of Clumsiness, Silent Image, True Strike, Wall of Smoke 2: Alter Self, Cloud of Bewilderment, Fly(Swift), Fog Cloud, Glitterdust, Invisibility, Slide(Greater), Web 3: 4: 5: 6: 7: 8: 9:
Character background:
Myrd was living the good life. As a child growing up, his father, Thelonius Faust, gave him everything he could have ever wanted. Spoiled as he was, Myrd was sheltered, blind to the world around him. It was to be his downfall. His father, running a large and prosperous business of trade from the Faust Manor, was into some bad dealing with the Zaresh family, the Faust's greatest rivals in their trade. Myrd was expected to take up the family title of House Leader, but he largely ignored his duties for nights out on the town. As it was, the Zaresh family took great personal insult when Myrd skipped out on the trading rights meeting for the dockyards. And, as they often are, the docks are never a safe place.
The meeting was to take place in the dock master's office, supervised by the man himself, Icarus Tidefellow. AS Myrd was skipping his duties, the meeting was attacked. Assassins tore into the room, and killed everyone inside, as the reports said. Included in the deaths, was the Zaresh families own rising protege, Ahir Zaresh. Obviously suspecting the Faust's to be the cause of the murder, the Zaresh family immediately set out to destroy the entire Faust compound. When the blood red sun arose the next morning, the Faust Manor was little more than ashes in the wind.
But what of our protagonist? Ah, but he returns to his home after a night of gallanting and revelry, and is struck to the soul by what turn his life has taken. A Zaresh patrol spots him and gives chase, obviously to complete the job that was intended. Myrd flees, and disappears into the undergrounds of the city. As he rises into adulthood, he makes his living with thievery and cunning. But as rookies do, they make mistakes.
As his prominence rose, Myrd became somewhat cocky in his manner, and decided one day to pick the pocket of one of the college's wizards, knowing there must be something good. Though, not to his knowledge, the target of his theft is known to many as Kartagos the Sly, Archmage of the College of Esteemed Initiates. As you can imagine, Myrd is caught without hardly any thought, and is taken to court. Thought to be some reckless coward, he like many other thieves is sentenced to have his hands removed. But Kartagos, seeing something in the lad, decides to pardon the boy, under the exception that he is put into indentured service at the college. With the Archmage's renown, the court allows it, and the sentence is finalized.
In the first few weeks of work, Kartagos closely watches the boy as he works, starting conversation with him many a time. The lad has a fantastic intellect, and is able to coherently speak with the Archmage, never faltering in mind or speech. Warming to the boy, Kartagos takes him under his wing, and begins to teach him the wonders of magic. Myrd learns very quickly, and finds a greatly liking to the school of conjuration. Kartagos teaches the boy humility, and pushes him harder than he has ever been pushed. Myrd studies nonstop, determined to live up to his father's name, and find out who it was that made the coup, knowing his father to never lower himself to such a deed. His searches prove to be fruitless, his specialization in conjuration providing him with nothing to help him find the killers. Frustrated, he is determined to find new ways to discover the killers, and restore his family's honour.
Myrd, finding the college has nothing else to teach him, leaves with the permission of Kartagos. His ventures take him through various jobs, as he travels from city to city, never closer to finding the murderers. His travels eventually lead him to the city of Dun Eamon, a city known for it's trade. With his current band of adventurer's, The Hoods of Discretion, Myrd travels to enters the City of Mists, to find what jobs he can, and what clues that exist of the Zaresh murder.
Also, when I rolled my health in Invisible Castle, it came up with errors. It something wrong with it, or am I just dumb and did it wrong? I read Meg's handbook thingy... By the way, I will be gone this coming weekend(Friday Saturday part of Sunday) and may or may not have access to a computer. Just a head's up really, so if I don't reply to being picked/not picked, that's why. But I'll be back Sunday for sure. In conclusion, I hope I get picked, this is the first time I've ever done this. The End.
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« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2008, 10:59:17 PM » |
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Yes, it IS worth it, to clarify.
How much CO should I pull on this puppy, peeps? :confused
I'm of the firm opinion that an effective character can't be bad for the party.  Just don't start an optimization arms race, please?  Well, first post did ask for party balance... I guess NOT optimizing in a game with PI, Dictum, Janus and the like would be a bad thing. EDIT: A sneaking Conjurer? Not familiar with the concept. Could you perhaps enlighten me to how it "works"?
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« Reply #68 on: May 22, 2008, 11:56:22 PM » |
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YAY! PI's HERE!!  Now it's time to get SURRIOUS . . .  <Cracks his CO knuckles and gets to work!>
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« Reply #69 on: May 23, 2008, 12:01:39 AM » |
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And the arms race Janus vs ? (team?) just went up a notch... 
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Odin, Feral Shifter Feral Shifter. "Can I drown the dead rat now?" Loke, Dread Magnate "Me all good and nice. Ask any questions and I`ll kill you twice." DnD classes is kind of like art. You make lots of stuff that everyone loves but aint no fun to play. This one is like getting a nude pic of Britney Spears when she was hot above your bed. Anyone can appreciate it. And it works as it should in practise, not just in theory. -Me to Strato regarding his Elemental
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« Reply #70 on: May 23, 2008, 12:07:11 AM » |
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<shrug> I've always operated under the Mutually Assured Destruction model of character optimization. Don't expect something uber.
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« Reply #71 on: May 23, 2008, 01:58:18 AM » |
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<shrug> I've always operated under the Mutually Assured Destruction model of character optimization. Don't expect something uber.
"But a detterant is useless if knowone knows about it. Why did you not tell the world." Don't make me make a Dragonwrought Kobold with Precocious Apprentice and Bloodline levels. 
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« Reply #72 on: May 23, 2008, 02:40:54 AM » |
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Well, first post did ask for party balance... I guess NOT optimizing in a game with PI, Dictum, Janus and the like would be a bad thing.
Well if you see my character, it's not that optimized. I don't even get flaws 
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« Reply #73 on: May 23, 2008, 02:57:45 AM » |
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Gah, did you just admit you don't have deterrent force. Quick have some nukes...I mean flaws.
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« Reply #74 on: May 23, 2008, 03:50:48 AM » |
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Preliminary build Version 2: Dragonborn Whispergnome Archivist
Small Humanoid (Dragonblood, Gnome) Hit Dice: 5d6 + 20 (40 HP) Initiative: +1 Speed: 30ft. Armor Class: 11 Touch: 11 Flat-footed: 11 Base Attack/Grapple: +2/-2 Attack: Dagger +2, 1d4+0 Full Attack: Dagger +0, 1d4+0 Space/Reach: 5ft./5ft. Special Qualities: Noncombatant, Murky-eyed Saves: Fort 9/ Reflex 7/ Will 7 Abilities: Str 10/ Dex 10/ Con 18/ Int 20/ Wis 14/ Cha 7 Skills (57): Concentration 12, Decipher Script 8, Knowledge (Arcana) 15, Knowledge (History) 13, Knowledge (Local) 6, Knowledge (Nature) 13, Knowledge (The Planes) 13, Search 13, Spellcraft 13 Feats: Trivial Knowledge, Insightful Reflexes (Flaw), (Flaw), Scribe Scroll (Bonus), (Level 3) Alignment: NG Languages Spoken: Common, Draconic, Gnome, Elven, Level Adjustment: None Possessions: Dagger, Wooden Holy Symbol, Prayerbook, TBD Artificer’s monocle , Headband of Intellect, Cloak of Resistance +1, Healing Belt, 750GP
Spells prepared: 0: (4) TBD 1: (4) TBD 2: (3) TBD 3: (2) TBD
Spells known: 0: All cleric 1: (5) Lesser Vigor, TBD 2: (4) Lore of the Gods, TBD 3: (2) TBD
Specials: Wing Aspect; use wings to aid in jump checks (+10), fly at 6HD Low Light vision, Darkvision 60ft
Class features: Dark Knowledge 4/day (Magical beasts, Aberrations, undead, Outsiders, Elementals) Dark Knowledge [Tactics] Dark Knowledge [Puissance] DC15 for +1 attack Lore Mastery +2 Decipher Script, +2 one Knowledge Still Mind +2 on saves vs Enchantments
Feats: Trivial Knowledge Roll 2d20 drop lowest for all Knowledge checks Insightful reflexes Add Int bonus to reflex saves X X Scribe Scroll
Skill tricks: Collector of Stories
I'm still wondering about the following things: - Should I take the Mind or the Heart aspect? - What scrolls shall I craft before the adventure begins? - Any recommendations on the two feat slots I have left over? Maybe Draconic Archivist or Master of Knowledge?
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« Reply #75 on: May 23, 2008, 03:57:57 AM » |
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I think draconic archivist is ok. Dragons and Constructs is a nice deal.
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« Reply #76 on: May 23, 2008, 04:05:30 AM » |
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I think draconic archivist is ok. Dragons and Constructs is a nice deal.
oh wise one, please share more of your infinite wisdom with thine humble disciple
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« Reply #77 on: May 23, 2008, 08:08:58 AM » |
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Knowledge Devotion from Complete Champ might be good for the Archivist. Depends on the types of spells you'll be casting (damaging vs. nondamaging).
Also, where is Trivial Knowledge from? I know it is gnome only, I just forget where it's from.
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« Reply #78 on: May 23, 2008, 08:28:49 AM » |
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If any of you is using Knowledge devotion, remember to have a look at Collector of Stories skill trick (+5 unnamed bonus to recognize monsters) and Lore of the Gods spell from Complete Champion (if you worship a deity who has Knowledge domain, you get +10 insight to knowledge checks, otherwise +5).
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« Reply #79 on: May 23, 2008, 09:23:58 AM » |
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Knowledge Devotion from Complete Champ might be good for the Archivist. Depends on the types of spells you'll be casting (damaging vs. nondamaging).
Also, where is Trivial Knowledge from? I know it is gnome only, I just forget where it's from.
I dont think I'll be casting a lot of damaging spells, that why I didn't take Knowledge Devotion.... Trivial Knowledge is a Gnome only feat, to be found in Roces of Stone If any of you is using Knowledge devotion, remember to have a look at Collector of Stories skill trick (+5 unnamed bonus to recognize monsters) and Lore of the Gods spell from Complete Champion (if you worship a deity who has Knowledge domain, you get +10 insight to knowledge checks, otherwise +5).
Me like, me Like  too bad it's only 10min/level though and lvl 2.... but still; a +10 insight on all knowledge checks is amazing!!! 
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