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« Reply #720 on: June 02, 2009, 03:47:33 PM »

...Unless some illithid sourcebook somewhere has prices for brains.

Might be in the BoVD...

EDIT: Jep, humanoid brain and yugoloth's brain are both listed (4 cp and 5 gp respectively)

Hmm. How do illithids price brains, anyway? It's a valid question. Would it be based on Hit Dice, or Intelligence score, or a combination of the two? Would spellcasting be more highly valued? What about the brains of a psionic creature?

I want to go write this down.
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« Reply #721 on: June 02, 2009, 03:49:27 PM »

...Unless some illithid sourcebook somewhere has prices for brains.

Might be in the BoVD...

EDIT: Jep, humanoid brain and yugoloth's brain are both listed (4 cp and 5 gp respectively)

Hmm. How do illithids price brains, anyway? It's a valid question. Would it be based on Hit Dice, or Intelligence score, or a combination of the two? Would spellcasting be more highly valued? What about the brains of a psionic creature?

I want to go write this down.

Doesn't say anything about Illithids. This is just for Evil Material Components in general.
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« Reply #722 on: June 02, 2009, 03:49:47 PM »

...Unless some illithid sourcebook somewhere has prices for brains.

Might be in the BoVD...

EDIT: Jep, humanoid brain and yugoloth's brain are both listed (4 cp and 5 gp respectively)

Hmm. How do illithids price brains, anyway? It's a valid question. Would it be based on Hit Dice, or Intelligence score, or a combination of the two? Would spellcasting be more highly valued? What about the brains of a psionic creature?

I want to go write this down.
What about ranks in knowledge and craft (painting) or other things the  'expand the mind'?
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« Reply #723 on: June 02, 2009, 03:50:23 PM »

...Unless some illithid sourcebook somewhere has prices for brains.

Might be in the BoVD...

EDIT: Jep, humanoid brain and yugoloth's brain are both listed (4 cp and 5 gp respectively)

Hmm. How do illithids price brains, anyway? It's a valid question. Would it be based on Hit Dice, or Intelligence score, or a combination of the two? Would spellcasting be more highly valued? What about the brains of a psionic creature?

I want to go write this down.
I'm pretty sure LoM has some blurb about intelligenter brains being preferred or something, but nothing overly specific.

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« Reply #724 on: June 02, 2009, 03:51:53 PM »

...Unless some illithid sourcebook somewhere has prices for brains.

Might be in the BoVD...

EDIT: Jep, humanoid brain and yugoloth's brain are both listed (4 cp and 5 gp respectively)

Hmm. How do illithids price brains, anyway? It's a valid question. Would it be based on Hit Dice, or Intelligence score, or a combination of the two? Would spellcasting be more highly valued? What about the brains of a psionic creature?

I want to go write this down.
I'm pretty sure LoM has some blurb about intelligenter brains being preferred or something, but nothing overly specific.

Faek Edit:CoDdammit, if you keep posting, it won't let me post! I've pressed post like three times now.

Delicious brains...
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« Reply #725 on: June 02, 2009, 03:57:41 PM »

...Unless some illithid sourcebook somewhere has prices for brains.

Might be in the BoVD...

EDIT: Jep, humanoid brain and yugoloth's brain are both listed (4 cp and 5 gp respectively)

Hmm. How do illithids price brains, anyway? It's a valid question. Would it be based on Hit Dice, or Intelligence score, or a combination of the two? Would spellcasting be more highly valued? What about the brains of a psionic creature?

I want to go write this down.
I'm pretty sure LoM has some blurb about intelligenter brains being preferred or something, but nothing overly specific.

Faek Edit:CoDdammit, if you keep posting, it won't let me post! I've pressed post like three times now.

Delicious brains...

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« Reply #726 on: June 02, 2009, 06:00:47 PM »

Could you enchant a Balista with splitting?  Twitch
Splitting AND Exit Wound.
Sure, not bad, but there really isn't that much difference from a 'normal' bow or crossbow, that was kinda my point Smile
And building off that. Starburst and Necromantic (hellifiknow book source) on a really small ballistic, aka a crossbow.
Starburst changes your attack into a 20ft area blast complete with a reflex save for half damage.
Nectomantic creates zombies out of every corpse in the area under your control.

1. Fire into a tavern.
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3. Loot the town for profit!
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« Reply #727 on: June 02, 2009, 06:18:01 PM »

Could you enchant a Balista with splitting?  Twitch
Splitting AND Exit Wound.
Sure, not bad, but there really isn't that much difference from a 'normal' bow or crossbow, that was kinda my point Smile
And building off that. Starburst and Necromantic (hellifiknow book source) on a really small ballistic, aka a crossbow.
Starburst changes your attack into a 20ft area blast complete with a reflex save for half damage.
Nectomantic creates zombies out of every corpse in the area under your control.

1. Fire into a tavern.
2. ? ? ?
3. Loot the town for profit!
Add in Brilliant Energy so no one gets Armor, Shield, or even cover unless they are behind another person
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« Reply #728 on: June 02, 2009, 07:13:40 PM »

How about chained fell drain power word: pain?

Do they take a negative level each round?
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« Reply #729 on: June 02, 2009, 11:24:47 PM »

It's all in the visuals. Damage and effectiveness are all well and good, but sheer awesome counts for a lot too!
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« Reply #730 on: June 12, 2009, 11:19:56 AM »

How about chained fell drain power word: pain?

Do they take a negative level each round?

unfortunately no. What about snowcasting + energy admixtured + heightened + of the three thunders'd power word pain? Does that work?

Anyway, I've come up with what amounts to basically psionic celerity: Linked Power: Grip of Iron or other swift action power (hustle is awesome) + Twinned Synchronicity. Get two READIED ACTIONS next round for FREE. Augment by 2 points and you DON'T EVEN NEED TO SPECIFY WHAT ACTION IS READIED. That means you have 2 standard actions outside of your (probably schismed) turn to use whenever the situation is appropriate, to do whatever is appropriate for the situation. Granted you have to plan ahead a bit more than celerity, but it's still an awesome combo.

If there are no objections, I'd like to nominate Synchronicity to be the new best first level power ever. Which raises the question: what was the old one?

Credit is shared with the Ask a simple question thread. I was wondering on the legality of this for some time, and I believe that it was Phaedrus who suggested that I combine it with twin power.
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« Reply #731 on: June 12, 2009, 12:37:15 PM »


And building off that. Starburst and Necromantic (hellifiknow book source) on a really small ballistic, aka a crossbow.
Starburst changes your attack into a 20ft area blast complete with a reflex save for half damage.
Nectomantic creates zombies out of every corpse in the area under your control.

1. Fire into a tavern.
2. ? ? ?
3. Loot the town for profit!



Oh, but if we're going THAT route, we can do much better.  What about the level 3 Necromancer who takes over the world with a chicken?

1. Strap down the chicken.
2. Fell Drain chill touch the chicken.
3. Chicken dies.
4. Since the chicken died as a result of negative levels, it rises the next night as a Wight.
5. Control Undead until the chickenwight fails its save.
6. Unstrap the chickenwight.
7. March it through down, having it peck the townsfolk into wightdom.
8. Lead your army to conquest!
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« Reply #732 on: June 12, 2009, 12:42:46 PM »

Hehe, Chickenwight, hehe Big Grin

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« Reply #733 on: June 12, 2009, 12:46:39 PM »


And building off that. Starburst and Necromantic (hellifiknow book source) on a really small ballistic, aka a crossbow.
Starburst changes your attack into a 20ft area blast complete with a reflex save for half damage.
Nectomantic creates zombies out of every corpse in the area under your control.

1. Fire into a tavern.
2. ? ? ?
3. Loot the town for profit!



Oh, but if we're going THAT route, we can do much better.  What about the level 3 Necromancer who takes over the world with a chicken?

1. Strap down the chicken.
2. Fell Drain chill touch the chicken.
3. Chicken dies.
4. Since the chicken died as a result of negative levels, it rises the next night as a Wight.
5. Control Undead until the chickenwight fails its save.
6. Unstrap the chickenwight.
7. March it through down, having it peck the townsfolk into wightdom.
8. Lead your army to conquest!


If you first have the chicken infest the food supply.... till wight chickens, wight cows, and wight ponies are rampent...
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« Reply #734 on: June 12, 2009, 02:39:44 PM »


And building off that. Starburst and Necromantic (hellifiknow book source) on a really small ballistic, aka a crossbow.
Starburst changes your attack into a 20ft area blast complete with a reflex save for half damage.
Nectomantic creates zombies out of every corpse in the area under your control.

1. Fire into a tavern.
2. ? ? ?
3. Loot the town for profit!



Oh, but if we're going THAT route, we can do much better.  What about the level 3 Necromancer who takes over the world with a chicken?

1. Strap down the chicken.
2. Fell Drain chill touch the chicken.
3. Chicken dies.
4. Since the chicken died as a result of negative levels, it rises the next night as a Wight.
5. Control Undead until the chickenwight fails its save.
6. Unstrap the chickenwight.
7. March it through down, having it peck the townsfolk into wightdom.
8. Lead your army to conquest!


And of course, if you're Chicken Infested, you can have an army before even entering town.
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« Reply #735 on: June 16, 2009, 09:09:44 PM »

This was hammered out in another thread:

Take wizard 5, then bard 1, then sublime chord 1, then ultimate magus. Choose wizard and sublime chord for your caster/caster progression.

Watch as every other caster in the game cries.
go reread the skill requirements.... pretty sure you can't take your first level of SC til after lvl 10.
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« Reply #736 on: June 16, 2009, 09:55:05 PM »

Yeah, I found that out later. You can still get 2 sets of 9th level spells, just not QUITE as early.

Now I just need to figure out how to make bardic casting work off of Int...
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« Reply #737 on: June 16, 2009, 10:29:53 PM »

Yeah, I found that out later. You can still get 2 sets of 9th level spells, just not QUITE as early.

Now I just need to figure out how to make bardic casting work off of Int...

Think there's a feat in a book called Bastards and Bloodlines that does EXACTLY that.
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« Reply #738 on: June 17, 2009, 09:38:45 AM »

Yeah, I found that out later. You can still get 2 sets of 9th level spells, just not QUITE as early.


Doesn't actually work because of the wording of Sublime Chord.  It references your class level, not your caster level.

Knight of the Weave DOES work, since it explicitly references caster level, but it only goes up to sixth level spells.
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« Reply #739 on: June 17, 2009, 11:05:38 AM »

For anyone with a psicrystal: take the Psicrystal Containment feat. Now have your psicrystal take the Wild Talent (or Hidden Talent) and Psionic Meditation feats.

Psicrystal Containment lets you expend your psicrystal's psionic focus instead of your own, and with Wild Talent it can focus itself. Each round, have your psicrystal take a move action to gain psionic focus, then ready an action to gain psionic focus again when it is lost. You now get two free expenditures of your psionic focus per round. Big Grin Works well in conjuction with the psycarnum trick.
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