Character and Campaign Prep Thread

[Nanshork]

Naw, go for the Ritual Warrior

I think you're biased. 

Me? Not at all. Nooooo sir. Not me.

There's an artefact item just for Rit Warriors

......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......you're trying to bribe me aren't you?

[VennDygrem]

Ok, so far I'm leaning towards a base of Crusader or SWV Ranger, and not necessarily as a good aligned character. I'm in the mood to play a somewhat more morally-ambiguous character, leaning away from the traditional chivalrous-bent. I'm not entirely sure where to go from there, though. I still need to pick through some more PrC's and options to figure out what I can do with such a character. I know in the Cult group, Nanshork's been leaning toward the fallen Paladin idea, so a neutral or evil Crusader wouldn't really fit in there, though perhaps the bandits might benefit from some healing, buffs, and extra actions.

[Stratovarius]

......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......you're trying to bribe me aren't you?

Nope


Venn: If you're looking at the bandits (or the cult for that matter), neither really has a ranged option that is all that outstanding.

[AfterCrescent]

Yeah, Venn, you're welcome to join Ejo and I. Ejo's got sneaking and fear down, and melee terror is covered by my character, although you're welcome to take any role.

[Nanshork]

Ok, so far I'm leaning towards a base of Crusader or SWV Ranger, and not necessarily as a good aligned character. I'm in the mood to play a somewhat more morally-ambiguous character, leaning away from the traditional chivalrous-bent. I'm not entirely sure where to go from there, though. I still need to pick through some more PrC's and options to figure out what I can do with such a character. I know in the Cult group, Nanshork's been leaning toward the fallen Paladin idea, so a neutral or evil Crusader wouldn't really fit in there, though perhaps the bandits might benefit from some healing, buffs, and extra actions.

Actually, the more I think about it the more I might go Ritual Warrior.  I'll need to do more research about it today while I'm at work. 

[Stratovarius]

If you've got questions, just nag me. I can try and clear things up.

[Nanshork]

I've got two.  First, if I have levels in both Ritualist and Ritual Warrior, do their rituals get pooled into one big list?  I ask because I want to know if Finishing Strike can be applied to Ritualist rituals.  Second, can Ritual Study and Greater Ritual Study be used to learn rituals from another classes list? 

Oh, and can I play the races that are in Blood and Wine?

[Stratovarius]

No pooling, they are separate.

Ritual Study can be used to gain ones from other lists.

And yes, those races are open.

[Nanshork]

Well that ruins my plans for a Ritualist dip.   

Well, I can officially say I'm going to be a Ritual Warrior now.

[Nanshork]

Another question.

How long does the Self-Purgation ability of the Immolator Apostate PrC last?

[Stratovarius]

I haven't listed one, and I need to fix that. However, I do believe that you cannot get into that class unless you take at least one level of Martyr.

[Nanshork]

I haven't listed one, and I need to fix that. However, I do believe that you cannot get into that class unless you take at least one level of Martyr.

Even without the self-sacrifice variant, the Invest Lifeblood feat allows Ritualists and Ritual Warriors to take levels in that class.

[Nanshork]

Oh, here we go, a more relevant question.  Ceremonial Butcher says that it increases rituals known as if you had gained levels in the Ritualist class.  Every other PrC says that it increases rituals known as if gained a level in ritual-weilding class met prereqs with.  Was Ceremonial Butcher made different on purpose, because I think it would work really well with Ritual Warrior.

[Stratovarius]

I haven't listed one, and I need to fix that. However, I do believe that you cannot get into that class unless you take at least one level of Martyr.

Even without the self-sacrifice variant, the Invest Lifeblood feat allows Ritualists and Ritual Warriors to take levels in that class.

Couldn't get that feat until level 18, and I would rule that it doesn't count, anyway, since it states that it replaces the sacrifice.

Oh, here we go, a more relevant question.  Ceremonial Butcher says that it increases rituals known as if you had gained levels in the Ritualist class.  Every other PrC says that it increases rituals known as if gained a level in ritual-weilding class met prereqs with.  Was Ceremonial Butcher made different on purpose, because I think it would work really well with Ritual Warrior.

No, that's back from when Ritualist was the only base class. Feel free to have it advance Ritual Warrior as well.

[Nanshork]

A ritualist could get the feat a whole lot earlier, was just letting you know about a possible loophole. 


Alright, I'll be going Ritual Warrior/ Ceremonial Butcher.  Whenever I get home and am at my books I'll get a character rolled up and posted.
Executioner's Blade is a very nice ability.




X-Codes, lets figure out why we're teamed up shall we?  Let me know what you need to know about my character.

[Nanshork]

My last (probably) question.  Does Opened Soul allow rituals created with Finishing Strike to last for hours?

Edit: It can't, can't be affected by feats.  Nevermind.

[VennDygrem]

Reposting from the locked thread:

So, for reference, what deities are you using? Custom ones, or the standard set?

Also, if one were to play a Crusader, how would the random-reacquisition of maneuvers be handled in a PbP game?

[Nanshork]

Bah, one more question.  Then I'll be done with questions until I make my character this evening. 

How long do rituals normally last?  I was going by the effect duration line until I saw instantaneous listed, and was just wondering.


Also, Rush of Blood and Greater Rush of Blood are both listed as level 1 rituals.

[Stratovarius]

Reposting from the locked thread:

So, for reference, what deities are you using? Custom ones, or the standard set?

Also, if one were to play a Crusader, how would the random-reacquisition of maneuvers be handled in a PbP game?

Haven't really decided on the gods yet. Tell me what you need and I can try and whip something up.

As for Crusader, unsure. Not run one (or seen one run) in a PbP before. Probably just trust the player.

Bah, one more question.  Then I'll be done with questions until I make my character this evening. 

How long do rituals normally last?  I was going by the effect duration line until I saw instantaneous listed, and was just wondering.


Also, Rush of Blood and Greater Rush of Blood are both listed as level 1 rituals.

1 day per hit dice normally, 1 minute per hit dice if created using finishing strike.

For the ritual warrior, I think that's intentional. Look at Ritualist to see where they fall there.

[Nanshork]

Ritualist has a couple of instantaneous ones too.  And most of the Ritual Warrior instantaneous ones are rituals that have to be activated with Finishing Strike.  Disfiguring Death, Flesh Lance, Hematic Burst (and greater), Hematic Theft, Leaching Aura, Lunging Cadaver, Scything Bane, Seeping Spirit, and Siphon Spirit are the ones I'm concerned about.  They all state that you get a bunch of touch attacks and can use one as a standard action, except Seeping Spirit which says that enemies lose life every round.  If you could take another look at the rituals and tell me whether or not I'm crazy, it would be nice.